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Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #117

Implicit expectation of any storage service is, data will remain private and when we remove data from there, it won't exist anywhere on Google systems in any form. Unfortunately, Google terms and conditions says, http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/ "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify…

Those all seem like fairly standard requirements to operate at Google's scale and interoperate with their services - publicly perform seems kinda dangerous but I trust Google not to show secret data in a keynote. They are broad, but they also restrict to for their services, which are also broad but does presumably mean if they stop offering any relevant service they're not going to have a license to use your data for something else.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #155
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Raises an interesting idea. (At relatives house raises security questions..) A storage company which essentially takes a drive that you clone from your home machine (snapshot). Then they mount that drive in a data center. You then use rsync (or a client) to get them the deltas. Or, they merely store the drive and mount it when you want to do an incremental (say every week). Otherwise it goes in a vault. Cameras in va…

Couldn't the NSA just loop the security tape to keep you warm and fuzzy while they get your drive?

Details details. Well first they would need physical access and then they would also need to know which drive number was owned by which person (not super difficult for sure but a system could be designed where it was more "swiss" in style of identification) and then they would have to break the encryption if they gained access.

I am not and wasn't specifically doing this for NSA reasons more just typical reasons why you wanted to keep an offsite backup and not have it on the same drive (and mounted) in a way that would make it less likely to get taken by hackers because it wasn't physically connected to the network.

So the question is, what is more secure (and not saying there aren't drawbacks..)

- Files stored by google, dropbox whatever - Files stored at your aunt's - Files stored in a secure data center only physically mounted at specific times (1 time every 2 weeks say) and otherwise in a locked vault identified by number. Needing ssh key to gain access which only you have. And only you know the time it will be mounted for that matter. And maybe a text message back to your cell as well (how is all of that for security by obscurity?)

For that matter safe deposit boxes aren't that expensive if you have a local bank you could simply store a clone copy of your drive there and it would be essentially safe from fire, theft and the NSA since they wouldn't know it was there to even gain (legal) access to it, right?

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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I can't believe there are people here who think Google Drive could be discontinued. It's an absolutely ridiculous notion. It's like thinking pigs could fly.

They might as well discontinue Gmail and Google Apps.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #27

I think at this point I'm a little more comfortable paying more for a company that I know won't abandon this market. I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. How can we be sure Google Drive won't be shuttered in less time? Google is very haphazard with their web properties. Sometimes they shutter them, sometimes they stuff them in the closet. Google Reader, Wave, etc, you know. the stories. What scares me more are…

I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. As a counterpoint to that, Dropbox might not exist in 5 years. Google most likely will. Basically, there is no answer here that guarantees the future of your cloud storage. It's useful to access your files from multiple locations, but using it for long term file archival seems like asking for disappointment (as well as being a neat way of throwing money into the sky).

Google has a history of shutting even profitable projects. Dropbox doesn't.

There is a legitimate reason to be wary of relying on anything Google.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. As a counterpoint to that, Dropbox might not exist in 5 years. Google most likely will. Basically, there is no answer here that guarantees the future of your cloud storage. It's useful to access your files from multiple locations, but using it for long term file archival seems like asking for disappointment (as well as being a neat way of throwing money into the sky).

Dropbox is profitable yeah? Why wouldn't they be around in 5 years? Google's prices are so much cheaper than Dropbox, but the ease of use with Dropbox, and the fact that I have my families devices and computers already set up probably means I wont ever switch. I take a picture with my phone? It's on dropbox. My wife takes a picture? It's on dropbox. I take a screenshot on my PC? It's on dropbox. I even wrote a little…

off topic and a silly question: "bookmark tool that uses the dropbox API", what do you mean by that?

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #44

I think at this point I'm a little more comfortable paying more for a company that I know won't abandon this market. I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. How can we be sure Google Drive won't be shuttered in less time? Google is very haphazard with their web properties. Sometimes they shutter them, sometimes they stuff them in the closet. Google Reader, Wave, etc, you know. the stories. What scares me more are…

All of those were experiments and not paid products. I don't see Google shutting down stuff that people are actually paying for.

Question remains about how profitable these prices are for google.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #133

If you only care about the file storage (you don't have 1TB of Docs do you?), there is also NSA-free Hubic from OVH. https://hubic.com/ $13.50 per month for 10TB!

OVH scares me. This is the company that mismanaged their pricing structure (for hosting/VPS) and as a result shut down all orders for quite a while.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are some non-American & reliable cloud companies?

Depending on what kind of cloud services you're looking for, Jottacloud (Norway) is vaguely like Dropbox. Exoscale (Switzerland) is roughly analogous to AWS.

I would be careful with Exoscale. They are using two datacenters from Equinix which is a US based company spending hundreds if millions in new data centers in Switzerland.

In addition Exoscale states: "The datacenter company guarantees us that no data shall be stored outside of Switzerland." Which would indicated that they do not own their own hardware. That would mean Equinix owns it.

I do not trust Equinix and it is scary how many data centers they operate in Zürich alone now. I wonder where they get all that money to build them? NSA?

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