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Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by pfg » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:07 PM UTC

shinratdr wrote: post #112

icebraining wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Download and then uploading a terabyte of data can be very expensive depending on where you live Dropbox doesn't have a 1TB plan, but 2x500GB costs $1000/year. On Drive, it costs $100/year. That's a difference of $900/year. I don't know where you live, but around here $900/year buys you a pretty fucking good connection, with blackjack and hookers included. it can also take a very long time. So what? You can still use…

That would be 100/month, not a year. Looks like Drive and Dropbox actually have identical pricing in this respect.

No, it's $10/month on Drive, and 2 * $49.99/month on Dropbox (or 2 * $499/year).

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by aresant » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:07 PM UTC

My biggest hope w/this announcement is that DropBox responds with a stronger 500 GB offering which, presently, is $500+ a year.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by fh973 » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:07 PM UTC

If you only care about the file storage (you don't have 1TB of Docs do you?), there is also NSA-free Hubic from OVH. https://hubic.com/

$13.50 per month for 10TB!

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by kbar13 » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:08 PM UTC

is there a OSX backups solution akin to time machine / arq that takes advantage of google drive?

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by return0 » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:08 PM UTC

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #113

I see two problems with massive offsite storage such as Google Drive 1 TB. First, although $120/year may be quite cheap in the world of cloud storage, hardware's cheap. You can buy a 2-TB external hard drive for less than $120. 1-TB drives are going for $60-$70 now. So why pay rent when you can own? Buy a couple of 1-TB drives every year, copy your stuff onto both, and store one at a relative's house in another city.…

NSA is a much much bigger problem than price.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by barrkel » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:08 PM UTC

watty wrote: post #110

SeanDav wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If there is a choice - it is better to place your bet with the company whose main business line depends on the service you are using. Google has a long history of dropping services, because it can. It does not matter to Google that 10k people or 100k people find that particular service useful. Google is not about to drop search and search related ads any time soon - storage services it could drop tomorrow and not car…

I'm not a betting man but if I had to put $1 on which service (Dropbox or Google Drive) would disappear first I'd bet Dropbox.

I'd probably bet on Google putting Dropbox out of business with competition, then getting rid of Drive because it's no longer a growth area.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by sp332 » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:09 PM UTC

chillingeffect wrote: post #100

tobyjsullivan wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's assess risk. Risk A) Google might end support for Drive. They've shown that , if they do, they'll give a lot of notice. You'll have an opportunity to move your files elsewhere. Risk B) Dropbox goes out of business. Most likely because Google is undercutting their prices by about 90%. If you are lucky, they give some notice. They also might just send everyone home and shut off the lights, like many companies do…

they didn't tell anybody when they pulled support for sets from spreadsheets.

Sets in spreadsheets still works for me. Edit: When the feature was "retired", there was a note that it would be replaced with a better version. https://support.google.com/drive/answer/3543688

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by larrys » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:10 PM UTC

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #113

I see two problems with massive offsite storage such as Google Drive 1 TB. First, although $120/year may be quite cheap in the world of cloud storage, hardware's cheap. You can buy a 2-TB external hard drive for less than $120. 1-TB drives are going for $60-$70 now. So why pay rent when you can own? Buy a couple of 1-TB drives every year, copy your stuff onto both, and store one at a relative's house in another city.…

Raises an interesting idea. (At relatives house raises security questions..)

A storage company which essentially takes a drive that you clone from your home machine (snapshot). Then they mount that drive in a data center. You then use rsync (or a client) to get them the deltas. Or, they merely store the drive and mount it when you want to do an incremental (say every week). Otherwise it goes in a vault. Cameras in vault and drives have numbers so you can literally see where your drive is sitting at any point in time. For that warm and fuzzy feeling.

The original hard drive is shipped to them (to save you the trouble of having a tb cross the network or whatever you have.). And anytime you want they ship the drive back to you. Each drive is mounted on a VPS which only you have access to. Drive spins all the time but isn't being used all the time. Hence in theory more reliability. You also keep a local backup disk as well (this is in case your house is broken into or fire etc.).

The service would only do one thing, mount the drive and provide access to the drive.

Not a big market for this for sure. But a market no less of some size. Even for company disaster recover purposes.

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by UVB-76 » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:10 PM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #128

simonsarris wrote: post #9

I think at this point I'm a little more comfortable paying more for a company that I know won't abandon this market. I know Dropbox will be Dropbox in 5 years. How can we be sure Google Drive won't be shuttered in less time? Google is very haphazard with their web properties. Sometimes they shutter them, sometimes they stuff them in the closet. Google Reader, Wave, etc, you know. the stories. What scares me more are…

On one hand I support DropBox, because they care about my needs - I'm (also) a Ubuntu Linux user and Google apparently doesn't care about me enough to provide me with a client. Apparently I'm so unimportant to them that they can't justify the cost of a couple of man-months. On the other hand your worry, while justified, does not apply to Google Drive. Google Drive is now an integral part of: - GMail - Google Apps - A…

> I'm (also) a Ubuntu Linux user and Google apparently doesn't care about me enough to provide me with a client. Apparently I'm so unimportant to them that they can't justify the cost of a couple of man-months.

Apparently around half of the 20,000 Google employees use a version of Ubuntu ('Goobuntu'), so I wouldn't say they don't care about Ubuntu...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobuntu

Re: Save more with Google Drive

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Post by harrystone » Thu, Mar 13, 2014, 7:12 PM UTC

I would be tempted if there was something like gsutil for Google Drive like there is for Google Cloud Storage. But putting a cheap slackware box in the rack at work and mounting a folder via sshfs is free.