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People will seek out jurisdictions where driving is less necessary because they are safer there.
So sad :( These incidences always force me to think something is wrong -- seriously wrong -- with this world. But keeping the faith.
This is why drunks are dangerous - after X drinks they look at their car and think "I've got this" when in fact they are so drunk they don't know what they have anymore.
Terrible. I hope this wasn't exarcerbated by a high-speed pursuit.
Nope. From another article: "The suspect was asked to pull over at a sobriety check point and instead sped away from a police car. He smashed through a police barricade and then plowed down people, some of them lined up outside a nightclub, over a span of two blocks."
"Police said the incident started when an officer on a drunken-driving patrol tried to stop the silver Toyota sedan at a gas station a few blocks away. The car took off, weaving between parked cars then driving at high speed the wrong way down a one-way street.
The driver rammed through police barriers — three wooden pieces held up by metal poles — set up on Red River Street on the northeast edge of the entertainment district. It'd had been packed with revelers just minutes earlier, but officials had cleared the area to create a fire lane."
Seems like the drunk made a run for it but mistakenly went down a street that was closed for pedestrians, which is why there were so many injuries.
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This should still raise the question: do sobriety checkpoints save lives? Even though this was the fault of the driver, and obviously an extremely rare event, would those people still be alive if the driver had just gone home? I'm not anti-checkpoint or anything.
These specific people would, yes. But how many more people would risk driving drunk if they knew there were no sobriety checkpoints?
EDIT:
So, was this a stupid local, a dumb kid from UT, or one of the startup brats from the coast?
EDIT2:
"Acevedo said officers initially tried to pull Owens over at a gas station on the Interstate 35 service road around 12:30 a.m. Thursday. Fort Hood officials tell KVUE that the Toyota he was driving was reported stolen in Killeen."
Huh, interesting.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nope. From another article: "The suspect was asked to pull over at a sobriety check point and instead sped away from a police car. He smashed through a police barricade and then plowed down people, some of them lined up outside a nightclub, over a span of two blocks."
This should still raise the question: do sobriety checkpoints save lives? Even though this was the fault of the driver, and obviously an extremely rare event, would those people still be alive if the driver had just gone home? I'm not anti-checkpoint or anything.
Should it? Is baseless conjecture informed by essentially no facts, in the echo of a just-happened tragedy, ever useful?
I am going to say no, it is never useful. Many misinformed words are spilled, blame is heartily doled out liberally and easily by keyboard warriors, and everyone feels like they've done the world some good, when they've done nothing of the sort.
Sorry if this comes across as overly cynical, but with barely a couple of posts in, the blame has been casually blamed on high-speed pursuits (no evidence of one, but throw it in there regardless), sobriety checkpoints (in response to a freak incident in a nation with 11,000 impaired driving deaths yearly)...and restrictions on Uber. I expect a Thanks, Obama to appear soon enough.
Don't follow FOX news style "who's to blame!?" thought processes.
To be fare, he didn't have anyone in his car at the time, so Uber isn't liable. EDIT: So, was this a stupid local, a dumb kid from UT, or one of the startup brats from the coast? EDIT2: "Acevedo said officers initially tried to pull Owens over at a gas station on the Interstate 35 service road around 12:30 a.m. Thursday. Fort Hood officials tell KVUE that the Toyota he was driving was reported stolen in Killeen. " Hu…
Good thing APD is protecting the public by keeping Uber out. The driver was definitely at fault, but we need to seriously look at how we design cities and laws. If the only way to get around in a city is to drive, people are going to drive drunk. Make it easier for people to get around without driving, and there will be less drunk driving. People will seek out jurisdictions where driving is less necessary because the…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
This should still raise the question: do sobriety checkpoints save lives? Even though this was the fault of the driver, and obviously an extremely rare event, would those people still be alive if the driver had just gone home? I'm not anti-checkpoint or anything.
Are most sobriety checkpoints in an area with a lot of pedestrians nearby?
