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Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by aestra »

lnanek2 wrote: post #125

Kind of bizarre seeing someone else's value system which is completely alien to my own. If I was leaving my wife and kids with mortgage and car loan debt, I wouldn't spend $10-20k on a graveyard plot, that's for sure. I don't think I would in any case, I'd just get cremated or whatever the cheapest option is.

Thank you for posting this.

It is sad that we all think we are entitled to a piece of the earth for eternity. Not only is it a huge waste of money but a huge waste of land. If everyone who ever lived had a marked grave reserved for them forever, there would be no land left for the people who are living right now.

It is the ultimate sense of entitlement.

By the way caskets cost like 5 grand or something too. I was there when we were picking one out for my grandma I think that was the price of hers and it was on the cheaper side. My grandma pre bought her plot, but it still cost 10 grand to do a funeral that really wasn't elaborate or anything, mainly the basic stuff. If it were up to just me, things would have been different.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by aestra »

ktzar wrote: post #100

Instead of donating to this guy I'd prefer to advocate for a free health system and a system that doesn't fuck up a family that has had enough bad luck to see its father die. Having someone in his last months of life begging for money to not leave his family screwed up seems like a waste of those precious last weeks.

This has nothing, or very little, to do with healthcare costs. This guy has a lot of debt that he took out before the cancer.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by lafar6502 »

vishnugupta wrote: post #78
timr wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're insured in the US (sadly, this is still a fairly big "if"...) the costs of cancer treatment will be covered, but unlike most of the rest of the developed world there are still a lot of caveats: depending on the quality of your coverage, you could end up paying very little, or quite a bit of money. It's not a simple question, unfortunately. That said, it sounds like he's not looking for money for treatment ,…

>If you've just bought a house and a car and had a kid you're probably in a lot of recent debt, with the assumption that you'll have a lifetime to pay it down Out of self discipline I bought a life insurance at the same time my home loan was approved; the insurance amount being same as loan amount. I have always wondered why don't Government have regulations in place that forces a borrower to purchase a life insuranc…

It certainly makes you confident that insurance company will take care of everything when you die. But are you really sure? Did you check the fine print? What if your death is 'because of age' or 'because riding a bicycle is a dangerous activity'?

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by maxerickson »

johnward wrote: post #150
MisterBastahrd wrote: post #10

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Life insurance is something that you have to purchase for sums of that magnitude, and a lot of people are too busy buying other things to worry about spending the 10-20 bucks a month that it costs. Usually an employer will give you an additional survivor's benefit, usually between 10K to up to a year's worth of salary.

Everyone keeps saying this. Where can you spend 10-20 bucks a month and get 100-200k coverage? I pay way more than that for like 50k coverage and I got the plane when I was 23.

https://www.statefarm.com/insurance/life/term-life

(For example)

The numbers are particular for a young woman in Illinois, but it won't be egregiously higher for young men.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by acheron »

galactus wrote: post #72
adventured wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What Capitalism? America is the largest welfare state in history. Total government expenditures are nearly the size of China's GDP. What we have is corporatism, plunder by a combination of bureaucrats + government protected corporations (see: Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Exxon, Pfizer, etc). I wish we had Capitalism. All we have is an extraordinarily misdirected, poorly run welfare state.

in that case, it can be argued that the soviet union was not real Communism either.

No true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by aestra »

MatthewWilkes wrote: post #102

20k for a funeral? Really? Seemed legit until that.

If you take the funeral industry's advice and guidance, you can indeed spend 10-20K on a funeral. We spent 10K on my grandma's and she already per purchased her plot of land. Her casket alone cost something like 5 grand.

Of course the funeral industry exists to make money. To convince you you need the expensive casket, the flower arrangements, and even the plot of land and headstone.

Reminds me of the wedding industry as well, which invented new "traditions" that one needs and also needs to spend money on.

Like anything, you don't need to spend 10 or 20 grand on a funeral, just most people want to for some reason. Perhaps a display of status? Social obligation? I don't know.

Personally, it is important for me when I go to be cremated as fast as possible. No embalming or viewing of the body (needless and creepy). If my family chooses to honor me by throwing a party, that would be nice, but that should only be a few hundred dollars. I don't want my body to be there though.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by johnward »

maxerickson wrote: post #154
johnward wrote: post #150

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Everyone keeps saying this. Where can you spend 10-20 bucks a month and get 100-200k coverage? I pay way more than that for like 50k coverage and I got the plane when I was 23.

https://www.statefarm.com/insurance/life/term-life (For example) The numbers are particular for a young woman in Illinois, but it won't be egregiously higher for young men.

When I got my car insurance with state farm I just put on the life insurance because I had nothing at the time. They said it would be cheap to add it now because I'm so young. I got this plan when I was 24 and it's $36 a month for 50k. WTF. I just checked out my employer and I can get 300k on my wife and myself for about $12 a month. The only thing I'm not sure of is if I can keep that plan after if I leave my job.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by killnine »

IceyEC wrote: post #120
makmanalp wrote: post #116

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Anyone notice that the SSL cert for the donation page ( https://secure.giveforward.com/donate/119408 ) has issues? Firefox says "does not supply identity information". Someone noticed here but got a canned answer: http://help.giveforward.com/customer/portal/questions/124352... Could anyone verify that this is fine? I'm going to donate if it is. Thanks! edit: Looks like safari is fine with it, and a IceyEC mentions ch…

Chrome is perfectly happy with the cert

im getting 'page is not secure' loading with insecure elements such as pictures.

Loading mixed (insecure) display content on a secure page "http://static.giveforward.com/favicon.ico?1394547964"[Learn More]

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by laichzeit0 »

piyushpr134 wrote: post #38

Tragic as this story is, I would like to raise a point that could make life easier in event of untimely death i.e. term insurance. Term insurance is something that one should always get after getting married (or even before if your family is dependent on you). Multiple term insurances can be bought so you can keep buying more as your liabilities increase.

In some countries if you have multiple life-insurance policies, only one of them may actually pay out.

Be warned.

Re: What Dreams May Come

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Post by futurist »

jeffehobbs wrote: post #147
futurist wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. I think this is what bothers me about this list. It's material driven. There's a saying that goes (paraphrasing) "don't wish for better circumstances, wish to be a better person." For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Mark 8:36 KJV. Jonathan, you and your family must look to the Lord Jesus Christ. He is your judge. Through Him all things are possible.

Give me a break. Think about what you are saying and how and to who you are saying it.

I did. How about you do the same?
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