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Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

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post #49

Reminds me of Lost, I never thought that was a plausible plot even in 2004. I thought our technology has made losing aircraft, impossible. Very strange that the transponders were turned off. Very strange that the Rolls-Royce data wasn't released days ago. Was this an oversight?

I thought Oceanic 815 was found on the ocean floor?

you ruined it!

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

#63

Here is what I don't get. A plane, a HUGE plane, supposedly just disappeared. Near China. So this whole "fly under the radar" is just BS? You just need to turn off your transponder, and you can fly wherever you want?

I agree that's the weird part. Every countries spend literary billions to develop radars, stealth fighters and ways to disrupts radars. Now, we understand in a closed area watched by several nations and operating by clear weather, they can't effectively localise one big civilian aircraft? For 4 hours? Because just the guy turn off transponder? I think either we have been seriously mislead of what our technologies cap…

I think your last sentence might be correct, because you might be vastly underestimating the size of the ocean.

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

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post #49

Reminds me of Lost, I never thought that was a plausible plot even in 2004. I thought our technology has made losing aircraft, impossible. Very strange that the transponders were turned off. Very strange that the Rolls-Royce data wasn't released days ago. Was this an oversight?

I thought Oceanic 815 was found on the ocean floor?

That one was faked by Charles Widmore.

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

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post #23

Interesting hypothesis that would square with this: http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2014/03/a-hypoth...

This is an interesting article. One of the comments also gives another plausible solution. Pasting it here for convenience: "There are a number of troubles with that theory Charles, one of which is that the plane should have followed its intended course and stayed on radar by passive reflection, but it is certainly also one of my favourite theories right now. The lack of debris near where it disappeared from the rada…

>It would be perfectly possible for co-conspirator plane to fly transponder-less up to the target plane, take over the transponder code, and fly decoy on the official route, while the MH370 goes elsewhere.

Since we know nothing, a lot remains open, but that is some of the most bizarre conjecture I can imagine. A 777 flies at an altitude and velocity because it is optimal. Arrive at the right altitude and location, spoof a transponder, and replicate a believable velocity?

Who could do that? The US, Taiwan, China, Japan? And yet, if any of those used something like an Aegis class missile cruiser to launch something we haven't heard of before, it would still be absurd, since this will draw more attention and resources devoted to investigating the cause than even something like the murder of JFK if it is a big enough mystery.

Someone with the resources of a nation state (most likely necessary to spoof and replace a 777 at cruising altitude) could also figure out other ways to assassinate a person that are less likely to be sufficiently investigated to decipher.

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

#66

Here is what I don't get. A plane, a HUGE plane, supposedly just disappeared. Near China. So this whole "fly under the radar" is just BS? You just need to turn off your transponder, and you can fly wherever you want?

Most of the world is not extensively covered by either commercial or military RADAR, even much of the inhabited parts. The world may seem like a small place often but it is rather big.

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

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post #31
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it transmitting to every 30 minutes (fixed: seconds)? If more than one satellite was involved, that might give direction. traceroute?

Minutes, not seconds.

Sorry about that. Fixed. Wouldn't my question still hold? It's talking to a ground network.

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

#68
Why no one is paying attention to the fact that the plane was flying over South China see which China is trying to claim for itself. Could it be the case that China by mistake shot the plane down ?

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

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post #52
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we know for a fact that it disappeared from military radar? Also, how low of an altitude would it have to fly to avoid radar? Maybe they dropped down to a thousand feet and changed course?

> Do we know for a fact that it disappeared from military radar? We only know what we are told, when it comes from military sources...

This is in contrast to non-military sources, wherein we know even what we are not told?

Re: Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours

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post #41
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how networks work in your country or where this accident occured, but in Japan when your phone is off, and you try to call it, it does not ring and indeed goes to voicemail directly.

Instead of turning your phone off, so that it can inform the network that it is going off line, try pulling the battery without warning. If I turn off my phone gracefully, the network will send incoming calls pretty much straight to voicemail. If my phones battery has died, or the phone dropped off the network for another reason (went camping?), then the network will have your phone ring as it searches for the phone.

Interesting, I will give it a try.
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