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Introducing the new BBC iPlayer

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Re: Introducing the new BBC iPlayer

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Is anyone seeing the new design yet? I am not here...

It's a phased launch. Even though it's a responsive design website, we are launching it by routing mobile and tablet traffic to it first, to make sure everything works properly. There will be an opt-in mechanism on the existing desktop site later today.

Re: Introducing the new BBC iPlayer

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I'd like to see them put some more effort on content delivery for their TV partners. I have a Bravia EX and half the time the iPlayer streams don't work i.e. you get sound and no video. Then occasionally we get shot down for a couple of weeks at a time with content region warnings suggesting we're not in the UK. Having spoken to Sony and my ISP, they're both suggesting that the administrative side of iPlayer is a mes…

my Bravia works fine for iplayer some one needs to light a fire under ITV and get there on demand service to actually work and be roll it out on to smart TV's.

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Still requires Flash. BBC continues its long tradition of epic fail.

What would you it rather use? HTML5? Silverlight? What is wrong with using an establish platform like Flash? iPlayer works, and works well. I happy to see BBC continuing to improve. I don't see anything close to resembling epic fail with iPlayer.

They're already happy to send out unencrypted streams to iOS users. But as with too many tech companies, if you're not using Apple you're a second class citizen.

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Fair points. Flash is moderately inefficient and a vector for viruses. But it runs on practically all computers out there and works on older computers that doesn't have HTMl5 supported browsers. Hopefully this segment is shrinking but it still exists. We don't know how their development cycle looks or their backend. There is probably a reason they chose not to do HTMl5 at this moment. It will probably come in due tim…

Well, there are probably between 1.5-2 billion mobile devices that don't run Flash, and we'll probably see another billion over the next two years. I don't bother to install Flash on my desktop, I just use Chrome when I need it.

Luckily BBC only have to care about British citizens. I don't know how they do mobile streaming but it clearly works on at least some mobile devices. Native app for that? I only really use iPlayer from a computer.

> I don't bother to install Flash on my desktop, I just use Chrome when I need it.

Most people don't know, care or understand what flash is. They want something that works and don't really care if it isn't as secure as something else or use slightly more resources. HN is not really representative for the public at large.

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I'm really hoping this redesign is why the Xbox One iPlayer app is delayed.

It's interesting that the iPlayer team are so open about some things but so quiet about others. I don't expect ETAs I'm just interested to know the differences between PS4 and Xbox One app development.

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> Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only

Yes, well. It's not like the publically financed television stations of EUrope have FUCKING MORAL OBLIGATION to help the free movement of people throughout Europe by making the programs that connect them with their home country and that they paid for available to them. And the BBC is _by far_ not the worst offender here.

I mean, even YLE, which should be happy that anybody outside of Finland wants to participate in the madness that is the Finnish language, blocks me based on my IP!

Of course, I am well aware that I am a German citizen and thus not paying into the BBC financing. This is of course an insourmountable obstacle, today in 2014.

It's not like there was any possible way to track which countries the programmes are watched from and then install some transfer payment systems between the publically financed broadcasters of the different countries.

Admittedly, our public broadcasters here in Germany have an annual budget of only 7.5 Billion Euros, so this is impossible to finance.

Man, I'm frustrated about this. Why is the media world so broken? Who runs a television station and then makes a significant effort to _keep_ people from watching it, even though them doing so has no or negligible impact on their budget?

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> What would you it rather use? BitTorrent

I was more looking for a realistic alternative choice for BBC. BitTorrent isn't.

Why? There is proof to the contrary. The Eurovision Song Contest has been streamed via a decentralized peer-to-peer protocol (albeit proprietary) for some years now.

And the BBC is involved with that. So what is different here?

Furthermore, if they were to lose the ridiculous DRM requirements for programs (programmes?) which are already paid for, they could even use the actual Bittorrent protocol itself.

Re: Introducing the new BBC iPlayer

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To announce a big new release and announce vaguely that subtitle support for iOS and Android downloads is still "coming soon" is a massive kick in the teeth. At this point they should at least be able to give us an ETA. What is it that makes it harder to support subtitles in downloads rather than streaming? I suppose I can see that with streaming you can serve up subtitled or non-subtitled streams according to user p…

Do iOS/Android natively support subtitles on video streams? If so, there's really no excuse for it.

Re: Introducing the new BBC iPlayer

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The iPlayer is pretty great and has gone from strength to strength.

Things for me that I'd like to see (as I can see some of the devs on here)

1. Content - I see no reason why the BBC doesn't put all of it's content on the iPlayer.

2. Timelimit - Abandon the 7 day window time limit, it simply doesn't fit with our modern lives, Netflix has proved that.

3. Ability to log in using my TV Licence as an ID, that way I could stream content from another country (on holiday for example, or a business trip).

Great work though guys, thank you.

Re: Introducing the new BBC iPlayer

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> Currently BBC iPlayer TV programmes are available to play in the UK only Yes, well. It's not like the publically financed television stations of EUrope have FUCKING MORAL OBLIGATION to help the free movement of people throughout Europe by making the programs that connect them with their home country and that they paid for available to them. And the BBC is _by far_ not the worst offender here. I mean, even YLE, whic…

Portuguese living in Germany having the same issues to watch some TV series because, of rights not being usable outside Portugal.

Not to mention how I really hate GEMA here.

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