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Re: iOS 7.1

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And the biggest feature of 7.1 is that within a few weeks 4 out of 5 iOS users will be running 7.1. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/01/apple-80-percent-of-act...

Given that Apple still sells an 16GB iPhone (for some baffling reason) I wonder what percentage of users will not have the necessary 4GB of unused space. Anecdotally, Several of my officemates have had this issue.

You can obviously update from iTunes, without any such constraint.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Given that Apple still sells an 16GB iPhone (for some baffling reason) I wonder what percentage of users will not have the necessary 4GB of unused space. Anecdotally, Several of my officemates have had this issue.

Not sure that would be baffling - that's the model everyone I know has (including myself).

Sorry for being confusing - I don't disagree it's popular model. What I don't understand is why Apple's baseline model has 16GB. It seems like flash memory can be had very cheaply - Amazon shows several examples of 64GB MicroSD cards for ~ $25.

It would seem like starting their base model at 64GB would be very consumer-friendly, and have a very low cost.

Re: iOS 7.1

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I personally had a terrible experience with the Motorola Droid. It worked well initially but got progressively worse with each update. Crashed constantly. Every update added bloatware (CityID, Madden, etc..), very frustrating. I went running back to iOS (iPhone5) and can't be happier.

Isn't that a five year old phone? I don't use one now but I think they might be a bit better now, at least I've heard good things about Moto X.

... and herein lies the problem.

I know what I'm getting when I buy an iPhone. Navigating Android smartphones is a minefield.

Re: iOS 7.1

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And the biggest feature of 7.1 is that within a few weeks 4 out of 5 iOS users will be running 7.1. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/01/apple-80-percent-of-act...

Given that Apple still sells an 16GB iPhone (for some baffling reason) I wonder what percentage of users will not have the necessary 4GB of unused space. Anecdotally, Several of my officemates have had this issue.

With my 2.1 GB of unused space I had no issue installing this update. It's a delta update so the size will vary. Mine requested about 200 some MB if I'm not mistaken.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Sorry, more straw man. You have taken that claim out of context. Android forces the user to do power management where iOS does it for the user. If the user is involved where they don't have to be, that is inadequate . Nothing you have said contradicts that.

His argument is not a straw man and Android does not force the user to do power management, as you claimed. It is an optional.

Optional if you want good battery life, sure.

Re: iOS 7.1

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> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance" I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did. No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version…

Well, it’s a real damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for Apple. If they cut off support they are evil for making old devices obsolete too quickly. If they don’t cut off support they get poor performance with an OS that takes advantage of all the performance in the newest models.

Does taking advantage of the technology in the newer devices automatically mean you must have degradation in the older ones?

Re: iOS 7.1

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Ever year I say "this will be the year I upgrade." iPhone 4 with ios 5.1.1 here. Still seems to work...

It's noteworthy that you actually have the option of upgrading, several years after you purchased your device.

I was thinking of getting a new phone as well.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Great. With only having to tap the screen to answer the phone, how many calls am I going to accidentally answer that I didn't want to by just pulling the phone out of my pocket?

The answer call screen that only requires a tap and not a swipe is only used when the phone is unlocked, which is how it worked in 7.0 as well. A locked phone still requires a swipe to answer the call

Re: iOS 7.1

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The claim was "the OS doesn't manage power consumption of apps adequately". My counterclaim is that it's perfectly adequate (when apps manage their locks well, the OS management of power consumption works just as you'd expect) but that Android simply defers judgement for what is an acceptable lock to the app (and the user) rather than imposing restrictions that save power at the cost of functionality. It uses a coope…

Sorry, more straw man. You have taken that claim out of context. Android forces the user to do power management where iOS does it for the user. If the user is involved where they don't have to be, that is inadequate . Nothing you have said contradicts that.

The stated claim seems entirely in context. And in fact, your restated argument is still rebutted by the post you're replying to. You can't just say "straw man" or "out of context" and then provide no explanation to those claims. Well, obviously you can, because you have been, but it makes your arguments fall flat.

I would restate the grandparent's claim to further argue, but clearly that's an effort in futility.

Re: iOS 7.1

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post #164

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Sorry, more straw man. You have taken that claim out of context. Android forces the user to do power management where iOS does it for the user. If the user is involved where they don't have to be, that is inadequate . Nothing you have said contradicts that.

The stated claim seems entirely in context. And in fact, your restated argument is still rebutted by the post you're replying to. You can't just say "straw man" or "out of context" and then provide no explanation to those claims. Well, obviously you can, because you have been, but it makes your arguments fall flat. I would restate the grandparent's claim to further argue, but clearly that's an effort in futility.

It's not rebutted. Nowhere does he address the point that android makes the user manage the power where iOS does not. Instead he simply attempts to reframe the debate into the usual old saw about Apple's approach being restrictive vs Android.

This simply does not rebut the idea that Android is making the user do the work, whereas iOS is doing it for the user. It just tries to make it sound like a good thing rather than a failing.

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