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Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by bananas »

e1ven wrote: post #123
melling wrote: post #10

And the biggest feature of 7.1 is that within a few weeks 4 out of 5 iOS users will be running 7.1. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/01/apple-80-percent-of-act...

Given that Apple still sells an 16GB iPhone (for some baffling reason) I wonder what percentage of users will not have the necessary 4GB of unused space. Anecdotally, Several of my officemates have had this issue.

My wife has a 16Gb iPad mini retina. It had 5G free on it. It really depends what you do. 16Gb is probably enough for most people.

My kids though had about 50Mb free each.

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Post by arrrg »

jwr wrote: post #133

> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance" I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did. No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version…

Well, it’s a real damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for Apple.

If they cut off support they are evil for making old devices obsolete too quickly.

If they don’t cut off support they get poor performance with an OS that takes advantage of all the performance in the newest models.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by wlesieutre »

derefr wrote: post #152
wlesieutre wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Biggest one that I've seen is apps regularly acting like I lost my internet connection. Hasn't been fixable without killing and relaunching them. I forget exactly which, but I think I've seen it in Apple apps too. Mail maybe?

Oh, I've had this one too (on an iPhone 4.) As far as I can tell, it's caused by switching cell towers on 3G/4G; you suddenly get apparently-great signal strength, but no service whatsoever. I've found that entering and leaving Airplane mode fixes things, presumably because it causes the phone to notice which cell it's actually connected to now. In order for this to be effective in the app you have open , though, you…

I'm fairly sure I've had it on wifi, though I'll have to pay better attention to the circumstances and see if I can confirm that.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by gress »

Karunamon wrote: post #176
gress wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately Android is unambiguously not open. If you want to make an Android device, you must sign up to a restrictive contract with Google. There is an open source subset of Android called AOSP, which you can use as a basis for your OS, but Google prohibits these from being called Android. No Android system is open.

What? I thought that only applied if you wanted google services on the device. Android itself is FOSS.

Nope. If you want to make an Android device, you must sign up for Google's service.

You are free to fork AOSP for your own projects which must not be called Android, but that is the extent of the 'openness'.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by MrGando »

nirnira wrote: post #141
jameshart wrote: post #121

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I am sorry, but I read that as Android offering 1) an easy way to make your phone completely unstable and possibly break it permanently; 2 (and 5)) a variety of ways to make your already chaotic phone UX even more ugly and unusable; 3) ways for third party apps or social engineers to replace core system features with adware-infested malware (like browser toolbars on Windows).... 6, I like, though; applications provid…

I don't know, you might want to try it out before you dismiss it completely. Rooting/installing ROMs is completely optional. It's just there if you want it, and it can be a lot of fun. You did buy a pocket computer after all - don't you want to see what it can do? I use Swiftkey instead of Google's stock keyboard, and Firefox instead of Chrome. Both are quality apps which look great, have zero malware issues, and ser…

> You did buy a pocket computer after all - don't you want to see what it can do?

I just bought a phone, which happens to be a computer. If I really want to get deep into a 'pocket computer' I buy an Arduino or an equivalent and hack it's guts.

As a mobile dev I'm more than happy about the access level that I have with iOS, I can even throw in-line Assembly there.

Cheers.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by speleding »

Oh no, they've removed the useful little feature where you could scroll through all your appointments by clicking the search icon and not enter anything. Still works on iPad but not on iPhone. Why would they do that?

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by therobotking »

gress wrote: post #164
cheald wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The claim was "the OS doesn't manage power consumption of apps adequately". My counterclaim is that it's perfectly adequate (when apps manage their locks well, the OS management of power consumption works just as you'd expect) but that Android simply defers judgement for what is an acceptable lock to the app (and the user) rather than imposing restrictions that save power at the cost of functionality. It uses a coope…

Sorry, more straw man. You have taken that claim out of context. Android forces the user to do power management where iOS does it for the user. If the user is involved where they don't have to be, that is inadequate . Nothing you have said contradicts that.

His argument is not a straw man and Android does not force the user to do power management, as you claimed. It is an optional.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by richbradshaw »

qq66 wrote: post #181
jwr wrote: post #133

> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance" I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did. No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version…

One major question that I have for everyone who upgrades iOS on launch day is, "why?" Nobody upgrades non-Apple operating systems on Day 1. Sometimes people wait for an entire year to upgrade the OS, because the device is functional at the old OS and risks becoming nonfunctional with the new OS. Yet I continue to see people upgrade OS X and iOS on launch day, often with predictably regrettable results.

I've always upgraded everything as soon as possible. This is code that has been written to improve existing code. Bugs have been fixed, security issues patched. Testing has been done, and it's good enough to push to customers.

I've always done this, and short of when I used Debian Sid (I think it was), I've never been bitten by it.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by pinaceae »

Coolest feature for me is a bit hidden in Accessiblity settings:

Outline of Buttons

On/Off Indicator

Those two improve the flat design by a lot. Buttons become clearly visible again. They should make it the default setting, going back to normal is jarring.

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