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Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by rdl »

gress wrote: post #58
[deleted] wrote: post #49

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Absolutely. Presumably you're just reacting to the gotofail media flap. A little googling would clarify things for you. There are multiple million+ node android botnets, most devices are vulnerable to year old exploits, and there is a thriving market for remote control malware. Basically the same situation that existed on Windows in the bad old days.

iOS (well, software and hardware) security model blows Android out of the water in design; in implementation, it tends to be much more bug free as well. It's the one area where you can clearly say iOS is superior to Android; openness is the one area where Android is unambiguously better than iOS.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by derefr »

wlesieutre wrote: post #74
sxcurry wrote: post #33

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This is interesting - I've been using iOS7 since the day it came out and don't think I've seen a serious bug yet, certainly not hundreds of them. I really am curious - is it the hardware (iPhone 5s here) or different usage patterns? I'm a developer too, and just haven't had this experience. Please let me know a couple of the specific bugs you've seen, as I'd like to try and recreate them before upgrading to 7.1

Biggest one that I've seen is apps regularly acting like I lost my internet connection. Hasn't been fixable without killing and relaunching them. I forget exactly which, but I think I've seen it in Apple apps too. Mail maybe?

Oh, I've had this one too (on an iPhone 4.) As far as I can tell, it's caused by switching cell towers on 3G/4G; you suddenly get apparently-great signal strength, but no service whatsoever.

I've found that entering and leaving Airplane mode fixes things, presumably because it causes the phone to notice which cell it's actually connected to now.

In order for this to be effective in the app you have open, though, you have to stay in Airplane mode long enough to time out whatever TCP connections the app is attempting. Tower-switching is a purely physical/routing-layer effect, so you still have the same IP, and TCP connections stay established. If you trigger the carrier renegotiation without staying in Airplane mode for long enough to drop your DHCP lease (usually about three seconds, I think?), the phone will go on waiting for a reply to a TCP SYN that never actually hit the tower, so you'll find, like you said, that you may have to kill-and-restart the running app to get it to work.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by runjake »

bduerst wrote: post #140
runjake wrote: post #67

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> I'm sorry, security? He might be referring to: - iOS's track record on vulnerabilities in comparison to Android. - Apple's track record of virtually no malware appearing in the App Store. - How hard it's been for the community to devise a series of exploits to jailbreak iOS with each new release. - iOS's nice privacy controls that are lacking on Android (App Ops is not official, convenient, or even present in the l…

App Ops is virtually the same as the privacy controls for iOS. It was pulled early from the Kit Kat release because it was breaking so many apps.

It was never intended for end user use, according to Google:

http://www.pocketables.com/2013/12/google-clears-app-ops-con...

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by cheald »

gress wrote: post #146
cheald wrote: post #127

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That's incorrect. The OS still does plenty of power consumption management, but it allows apps to tell it when they want the device to stay in a high-power state, because often you need that for legitimate functionality. It also allows the user to be the ultimate arbiter of power management because apps get it wrong sometimes. To conflate "doesn't impose tight restrictions on resource usage" with "doesn't do power co…

Nope. This a straw man - nobody said android "doesn't do power consumption management".

The claim was "the OS doesn't manage power consumption of apps adequately". My counterclaim is that it's perfectly adequate (when apps manage their locks well, the OS management of power consumption works just as you'd expect) but that Android simply defers judgement for what is an acceptable lock to the app (and the user) rather than imposing restrictions that save power at the cost of functionality. It uses a cooperative strategy, rather than a restrictive strategy.

If what you meant is "Android allows apps to consume power when iOS wouldn't", then yes, you're right. That's quite a far cry from "Android doesn't manage power consumption adequately".

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by hnewcfo »

jwr wrote: post #133

> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance" I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did. No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version…

I am still on iOS 5.x with my iPhone 4S.

Would you/anyone recommend to upgrade these days my 4S to iOS 7.x?

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by mikeash »

bduerst wrote: post #138
superuser2 wrote: post #116

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You can't make the claim that a greater number of features makes something more advanced. Especially when many of them are poorly implemented one-offs on one model on one carrier for a few months before support and updates are cut off permanently. (Why the hell should something like screen sharing be a feature of one particular model?!?) In terms of actually working , the iPhone is lightyears ahead of huge swaths of…

Not really. I think the better term is locked out of the ancient CDMA networks of Verizon. Nexus series is GSM, which is used globally, except for Verizon in the U.S. Samsung (w/ Verizon) install so much bloatware on their new Android phones it is bordering ridiculous. Why would new Galaxy S4 users want an uninstallable NFL app? The Motorola and LG Nexus android phones are comparable to iOS in terms of actually worki…

> Not really. I think the better term is locked out of the ancient CDMA networks of Verizon. Nexus series is GSM, which is used globally, except for Verizon in the U.S.

Don't overstate the rarity of CDMA or the ubiquity of GSM. Yes, GSM is effectively the global standard, but CDMA is way more popular than you say.

Examples of other CDMA networks include China Telecom (40+ million subscribers) and au by KDDI in Japan (20 million subscribers).

A full(ish?) list is available on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_CDMA2000_networks

Many of those are specialty providers, legacy networks, etc., but a fair number are regular old cell phone providers.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by LeoNatan25 »

hnewcfo wrote: post #155
jwr wrote: post #133

> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance" I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did. No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version…

I am still on iOS 5.x with my iPhone 4S. Would you/anyone recommend to upgrade these days my 4S to iOS 7.x?

On a 4S, iOS7.1 is quite snappy. I would say, sure, go ahead.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by ableal »

The CarPlay page ( http://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/ ) is interesting.

The manufacturer line-up at the bottom is impressive - the major absences are Volkswagen-Audi and FIAT-Chrysler. Renault is also missing, but partner Nissan is in. GM seems to be in, with Chevy and Opel brands showing.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by mikeash »

giarc wrote: post #38
acangiano wrote: post #27

Having recently switched from an iPhone to an Android smartphone, I really question the "most advanced mobile OS" claim. Apple phones are more polished, more logically organized, easier to use, more intuitive... fair enough. But more advanced? Not by a long shot. The amount of features and customizable options on Android is insane. You can argue that this is not necessarily a good thing for the average user, but you…

I have never owned an Android device however recently had some exposure when a colleague asked about battery life. I went through her settings etc to see what was enabled/not enabled and found a battery graph. It gave a breakdown of how much power each app was using and a graph of the battery charge over time. I was quite impressed. There is no native iPhone equivalent and I find most 3rd party apps that claim to tra…

In theory, it's pointless on an iPhone because only the app you're directly using uses any significant power.

This guarantee has diminished over the years. Before iOS 4 (which allowed third-party apps certain types of background multitasking) it was pretty much ironclad. Multitasking started to chip away at it, and they've added more and more multitasking modes (which is, overall, a great thing) making for more and more opportunities for apps to eat your battery in the background.

My personal experience is that the ideal still mostly holds, with a big fat exception in the form of VoIP apps like Skype which get to use up way too much power if you leave them logged in.

It's probably to the point where a battery monitor would be useful now, but it's not a particularly great need, and inertia will probably keep it away.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by clauretano »

tammer wrote: post #91

Anyone else find the new 'slide to unlock' animation hideous compared to the 7.0 one?

Yes. For anyone using a black background, switch to a light background to see it. Much less offensive with a dark background.

Also worth noting it doesn't show the "slide to unlock" for a bit if you have Touch ID enabled, which is nice.

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