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Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by nirnira »

gress wrote: post #119
nirnira wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. Android offers: 1) Generally much easier rooting/access to bootloader/custom ROM installation than iOS. 2) Install custom keyboards, home launchers, icon sets 3) Change default web browsers, caller, messaging apps to third-party alternatives 4) Full access to filesystem 5) Fully customisable homescreen widgets 6) Full sharing intents system 6) Generally more "computery" interface -…

More work for the user to do is a symptom of a less advanced system.

I could reply that a computer system which fails both to satisfy me with its out-of-the-box experience, and to offer any way for me to tweak that experience to my tastes, is even less advanced.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by MBCook »

brown9-2 wrote: post #107

This ~200 meg update requires 1.9 gigs of free space to install itself. It would be so much easier to clear space off of my 16 gig iPhone if it was possible to clear the space that Facebook (189mb), Tweetbot (181mb), Instapaper (361mb), Yelp (161mb) etc uses for their caches. Having to micromanage the disk space on an iPhone when this happens is quite the pain.

It doesn't require nearly as much space if you install it via iTunes instead of over-the-air.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by jwr »

> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance"

I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did.

No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version without waiting several weeks and seeing how other people's devices behave. The trust has been broken.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by MBCook »

masklinn wrote: post #53
sxcurry wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is interesting - I've been using iOS7 since the day it came out and don't think I've seen a serious bug yet, certainly not hundreds of them. I really am curious - is it the hardware (iPhone 5s here) or different usage patterns? I'm a developer too, and just haven't had this experience. Please let me know a couple of the specific bugs you've seen, as I'd like to try and recreate them before upgrading to 7.1

I've seen two annoying bugs so far: * the music player corrupts itself and starts skipping all songs, may or may not be fixed by rebooting the device. May require resynchronising all the music (remove/readd everything) * it regularly decides to stop opening sync sessions with iTunes and has to be rebooted Apart from that it's been pretty smooth sailing. Oh yeah, and every single update re-enables bluetooth, that's an…

That one (screwing up the music library) has been annoying me a fair amount lately. I've had to re-load my music library two or three times since iOS 7.

Otherwise, I haven't had any issues.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by zeitg3ist »

e1ven wrote: post #123
melling wrote: post #10

And the biggest feature of 7.1 is that within a few weeks 4 out of 5 iOS users will be running 7.1. http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/01/apple-80-percent-of-act...

Given that Apple still sells an 16GB iPhone (for some baffling reason) I wonder what percentage of users will not have the necessary 4GB of unused space. Anecdotally, Several of my officemates have had this issue.

It actually needs 2.5 GB to install (it won't use it after the installation, obviously).

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by blibble »

acangiano wrote: post #27

Having recently switched from an iPhone to an Android smartphone, I really question the "most advanced mobile OS" claim. Apple phones are more polished, more logically organized, easier to use, more intuitive... fair enough. But more advanced? Not by a long shot. The amount of features and customizable options on Android is insane. You can argue that this is not necessarily a good thing for the average user, but you…

last year I wrote a short complaint to the UK's Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) about their use of "world's most desktop advanced operating system" to describe OS X.

here are the responses I received:

1: http://imgur.com/mflFaHW

2: http://imgur.com/ndxyzlM

you'll now notice that the UK page doesn't contain that false statement: compare http://www.apple.com/uk/osx/ vs. http://www.apple.com/osx/

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by bduerst »

superuser2 wrote: post #116
acangiano wrote: post #27

Having recently switched from an iPhone to an Android smartphone, I really question the "most advanced mobile OS" claim. Apple phones are more polished, more logically organized, easier to use, more intuitive... fair enough. But more advanced? Not by a long shot. The amount of features and customizable options on Android is insane. You can argue that this is not necessarily a good thing for the average user, but you…

You can't make the claim that a greater number of features makes something more advanced. Especially when many of them are poorly implemented one-offs on one model on one carrier for a few months before support and updates are cut off permanently. (Why the hell should something like screen sharing be a feature of one particular model?!?) In terms of actually working , the iPhone is lightyears ahead of huge swaths of…

Not really. I think the better term is locked out of the ancient CDMA networks of Verizon. Nexus series is GSM, which is used globally, except for Verizon in the U.S.

Samsung (w/ Verizon) install so much bloatware on their new Android phones it is bordering ridiculous. Why would new Galaxy S4 users want an uninstallable NFL app?

The Motorola and LG Nexus android phones are comparable to iOS in terms of actually working.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by dpeck »

jwr wrote: post #133

> "iPhone 4 users will enjoy improved responsiveness and performance" I hear: "iPhone 4 users will be slightly less screwed over this time". I am updating as fast as I can, because frankly, nothing can be worse than the iOS 7.0 upgrade that I (regrettably) did. No matter how iOS 7.1 works on my iPhone 4, I will remember how I got screwed by the 7.0 update. In the future I will never upgrade to a major new OS version…

Felt the same with with iOS 4, whatever it was on the 3G. It was assured to work well, in reality it was completely unusable.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by bduerst »

runjake wrote: post #67
[deleted] wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> I'm sorry, security? He might be referring to: - iOS's track record on vulnerabilities in comparison to Android. - Apple's track record of virtually no malware appearing in the App Store. - How hard it's been for the community to devise a series of exploits to jailbreak iOS with each new release. - iOS's nice privacy controls that are lacking on Android (App Ops is not official, convenient, or even present in the l…

App Ops is virtually the same as the privacy controls for iOS. It was pulled early from the Kit Kat release because it was breaking so many apps.
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