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Re: iOS 7.1

#101

Post by smackfu »

roc wrote: post #81
smackfu wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but they didn't fix that problem, they just made a way to override it.

It sounds like they changed the UX entirely. Sure, that's not the same as solving the technical problem of "when to stop listening". But it's solving the user problem of "it doesn't know when to stop listening". And it's not some explicit additional button you have to press to override any default behavior. It's implicit in the new method. Unless the former UX is still around and this is an additional, optional, patt…

"Manually control when Siri listens by holding down the home button while you speak and releasing it when you're done as an alternative to letting Siri automatically notice when you stop talking"

Given that, it is very Apple-like, in that there is an "advanced" way to use it if you have an edge case, but you can continue doing it the old way if you don't care.

Re: iOS 7.1

#103

Post by vizsladriver »

davidcollantes wrote: post #85

iOS 7.1 release has the same UI bug as the iOS 7.1b2 ( https://twitter.com/davidcollantes/status/411597596588011520 ). Reported, hasn't been fixed.

My devices with 7.0.x behave the same way. I think it's intentional -- this is a feature, not a bug.

Re: iOS 7.1

#104

Post by smackfu »

davidcollantes wrote: post #92
kbar13 wrote: post #39

Am I the only one who is anal about the excessive use of periods in these marketing pages? > Getting the update is easy. Go to Settings. Select General. And tap Software Update. cmon, commas were created for a reason.

It bothers me too, but what bothers me the most is the last sentence: "And tap Software Update." It should be "Tap Software Update."

And you "select" General and "tap" Software Update, but those are the exact same action.

Re: iOS 7.1

#105

Post by brown9-2 »

benstein wrote: post #46

I wonder if they fixed the iMessage caching-phone-numbers-after-you-switch-to-Android bug that's been so terrible? Really wish they had a FULL changelog, not just marketing spin.

I think that is not driven by the OS but instead Apple's backend services. I'm not sure if the iMessage service knows when a number is no longer bound to the iPhone.

Re: iOS 7.1

#106

Post by cheald »

gress wrote: post #50
giarc wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have never owned an Android device however recently had some exposure when a colleague asked about battery life. I went through her settings etc to see what was enabled/not enabled and found a battery graph. It gave a breakdown of how much power each app was using and a graph of the battery charge over time. I was quite impressed. There is no native iPhone equivalent and I find most 3rd party apps that claim to tra…

Users only need that on Android because the OS doesn't manage power consumption of apps adequately.

It's somewhat disingenuous to say that the OS doesn't manage power consumption adequately; it defers to apps to let them decide what resources they need and when, which permits for a hell of a lot more flexibility than iOS (remember when Pandora wouldn't play music in the background for approximately forever?), at the cost of a misbehaving app chewing up more battery than it should.

Re: iOS 7.1

#107

Post by brown9-2 »

This ~200 meg update requires 1.9 gigs of free space to install itself. It would be so much easier to clear space off of my 16 gig iPhone if it was possible to clear the space that Facebook (189mb), Tweetbot (181mb), Instapaper (361mb), Yelp (161mb) etc uses for their caches. Having to micromanage the disk space on an iPhone when this happens is quite the pain.

Re: iOS 7.1

#108

Post by bananas »

brown9-2 wrote: post #107

This ~200 meg update requires 1.9 gigs of free space to install itself. It would be so much easier to clear space off of my 16 gig iPhone if it was possible to clear the space that Facebook (189mb), Tweetbot (181mb), Instapaper (361mb), Yelp (161mb) etc uses for their caches. Having to micromanage the disk space on an iPhone when this happens is quite the pain.

I just deleted the music collection and resynced it. Have done 3 iPads (air x2, retina mini) and an iPhone 4s and an iPhone 5c so far fine.since this was posted.

Bit inconvenient but I'd rather it was this way than other vendors' shitty updaters. If it's a major problem doing this, need to buy one with bigger storage next time.

Re: iOS 7.1

#109

Post by roc »

smackfu wrote: post #101
roc wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like they changed the UX entirely. Sure, that's not the same as solving the technical problem of "when to stop listening". But it's solving the user problem of "it doesn't know when to stop listening". And it's not some explicit additional button you have to press to override any default behavior. It's implicit in the new method. Unless the former UX is still around and this is an additional, optional, patt…

"Manually control when Siri listens by holding down the home button while you speak and releasing it when you're done as an alternative to letting Siri automatically notice when you stop talking" Given that, it is very Apple-like, in that there is an "advanced" way to use it if you have an edge case, but you can continue doing it the old way if you don't care.

I read it as: hold-to-Siri is just "the way" to use Siri now.

If hold-to-Siri is optional for power-users, advertising it like that doesn't feel Apple-like. Having it seems fine; Apple does that plenty. But advertising a power user option? That's new-to-me.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by larrik »

brown9-2 wrote: post #107

This ~200 meg update requires 1.9 gigs of free space to install itself. It would be so much easier to clear space off of my 16 gig iPhone if it was possible to clear the space that Facebook (189mb), Tweetbot (181mb), Instapaper (361mb), Yelp (161mb) etc uses for their caches. Having to micromanage the disk space on an iPhone when this happens is quite the pain.

It may be easier to let iTunes install it. That's how I deal with it.
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