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Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by enraged_camel »

acangiano wrote: post #27

Having recently switched from an iPhone to an Android smartphone, I really question the "most advanced mobile OS" claim. Apple phones are more polished, more logically organized, easier to use, more intuitive... fair enough. But more advanced? Not by a long shot. The amount of features and customizable options on Android is insane. You can argue that this is not necessarily a good thing for the average user, but you…

I'd argue that more features and customizable options do not necessarily make an OS more advanced, either.

Then again, I probably use a different definition of the word "advanced" than most people here. To me, iOS is the more advanced operating system because it manages to hide its complexity from the user. Adding features is easy. What is not easy is making sure those features are coherent and actually make the device easier to use.

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Post by joeconway »

A warning for any iOS developers. XCode 5.1 is not on the app store yet so updating to 7.1 means you can't test on your updated device for a while

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by masklinn »

sxcurry wrote: post #33
Ethan_Mick wrote: post #20

I've been running the latest beta for a while, and I'm updating my devices now. Here's my beef: This came too late. For months now - ever since iOS 7 came out, I've had to tell people "iOS 7 is great, but buggy. Don't worry, Apple will release 7.1 soon that will fix a lot of these issues." Time, and time again, I said that. With each beta it became more and more obvious that Apple wasn't releasing a quick fix for the…

This is interesting - I've been using iOS7 since the day it came out and don't think I've seen a serious bug yet, certainly not hundreds of them. I really am curious - is it the hardware (iPhone 5s here) or different usage patterns? I'm a developer too, and just haven't had this experience. Please let me know a couple of the specific bugs you've seen, as I'd like to try and recreate them before upgrading to 7.1

I've seen two annoying bugs so far:

* the music player corrupts itself and starts skipping all songs, may or may not be fixed by rebooting the device. May require resynchronising all the music (remove/readd everything)

* it regularly decides to stop opening sync sessions with iTunes and has to be rebooted

Apart from that it's been pretty smooth sailing.

Oh yeah, and every single update re-enables bluetooth, that's annoying.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by enraged_camel »

[deleted] wrote: post #49
gress wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Customization is not advancement. In many ways, iOS is clearly more advanced, for example security, energy consumption, 64-bit. You can debate the merits of these things, but Apple has a sound basis for their claim.

[deleted]

I'm sorry, did you actually have something meaningful to add besides snark?

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by amima »

The most annoying bug of iOS 7 was crashing of Safari. For iPad Air it happened for me all the time, every day 3-10 crashes during regular usage. Using other browser did not help - the problem was deeper, all browsers shared this issue. My biggest hope for 7.1 was this bug being fixed. But no, Safari still fails.

How to reproduce: 1. Go to someone's mobile.twitter.com account, like https://mobile.twitter.com/newsycombinator 2. Scroll down a few pages (for example, scroll down until 5 new pages load from infinite scrolling). 3. Scroll up very-very fast - Safari will fail. This behavior did not change in 7.1, and this is not the only way to reprocude. Sometimes it just fails while opening a single page, without any other tabs opened.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by smackfu »

LeoNatan25 wrote: post #25
smackfu wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although if there are no new APIs, I'm not sure why anyone but Apple would care if users were on 7.0 or 7.1.

We, developers, care, because we can check on 7.1 mainly, and we know that the vast majority of users will be having the same experience.

True, and I'm sure there are API bug fixes in 7.1 that developers want people to have.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by alayne »

joeconway wrote: post #52

A warning for any iOS developers. XCode 5.1 is not on the app store yet so updating to 7.1 means you can't test on your updated device for a while

It's available from the iOS Dev Center.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by gress »

[deleted] wrote: post #49
gress wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Customization is not advancement. In many ways, iOS is clearly more advanced, for example security, energy consumption, 64-bit. You can debate the merits of these things, but Apple has a sound basis for their claim.

[deleted]

Absolutely. Presumably you're just reacting to the gotofail media flap. A little googling would clarify things for you.

There are multiple million+ node android botnets, most devices are vulnerable to year old exploits, and there is a thriving market for remote control malware. Basically the same situation that existed on Windows in the bad old days.

Re: iOS 7.1

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Post by crishoj »

dhimes wrote: post #28
Kurtz79 wrote: post #24

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It's in their best interest that every user updates to the latest version, so sugar-coating the update makes sense. Personally the feature I'm looking forward to is the improved performance on the older devices.

Ever year I say "this will be the year I upgrade." iPhone 4 with ios 5.1.1 here. Still seems to work...

It's noteworthy that you actually have the option of upgrading, several years after you purchased your device.
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