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DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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Do they have IPv6 yet? What about actual security too? Maybe they'll stop the censorship if they want to be a real VPS player? ( https://vpsexperience.wordpress.com/ ) Oh, and I wish they'd use real industry terms, not stuff like 'Droplet'. That's just stupid. Right now, anyone at all who aren't GoDaddy or Network Solutions are better than Digital Ocean. You get what you pay for (AWS excepted, who are price gouging).…

Happy Linode customer, who gets hacked constantly and lies about it... Hmmmmmmmmm....

Excuse me?

I've never been cracked, and chances are I know/care more about security than the average user here. Either you've misidentified me or you're lying about me.

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Regardless of the truthiness of this blogpost, their ToS actually includes this gem (repeated twice actually, due to poor editing): 3.13 Subscribers may not use the Services in a manner that would violate the lawful privacy rights of any person, ... or embarrass, which shall be determined in DigitalOcean’s sole and absolute discretion. So... if someone gets embarrassed by what you put up, DO just decides to take it d…

Their lawyers have not yet taught them that decisions about content make one a content provider instead of a hosting provider, and all the wonderful protections in OCILLA/DMCA vanish into thin air. I'm sure they will get that eventually. Maybe after they learn to scrub customer storage in every case (not just enough to sweep the issue under the rug) so that droplets aren't immediately compromised on termination. In c…

Would you like to elaborate? The only data-leak story I have heard about was that until recently, "scrub disk with 0s" was unchecked by default when a droplet was destroyed. Now that option is checked by default. What other concerns do you have?

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> That being said, do they dump your instance if they reboot the physical server? I was under the impression that "Oh we want to upgrade they hypervisor kernel, your instance is toast", was fairgame/default on Amazon. Nope. In most cases, you get two weeks warning before a physical host is decommissioned. I've gotten as little as 24 hours (guessing it was a more significant than usual hardware issue). When that happe…

You mean they copy the ephemeral disk over? Really? Amazon should really advertise this, if that is the case. I was under the impression that Amazon couldn't be relied on as a VPS.

No, not ephemeral disks. They're typically used for temp files, caches, etc., or servers you can afford to lose. EBS volumes are persistent and work just fine between stop/starts.

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Adding to the commentary on here with something not so gushing: * kernels lag terribly behind the distributions meaning you're wide open sometimes. * can't resize or add storage * no freebsd support or custom kernels * VM availability problems. If you want to have another box, you aren't guaranteed to get one. * no IPv6 * somewhat shonky security reputation. * cant deliver to yahoo mail from their AMS2 IPs I've been…

I haven't used Digital Ocean, but I've heard you can use Arch Linux on it. How can you be far behind on kernels if using Arch Linux?

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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Adding to the commentary on here with something not so gushing: * kernels lag terribly behind the distributions meaning you're wide open sometimes. * can't resize or add storage * no freebsd support or custom kernels * VM availability problems. If you want to have another box, you aren't guaranteed to get one. * no IPv6 * somewhat shonky security reputation. * cant deliver to yahoo mail from their AMS2 IPs I've been…

Actually you can run custom kernels on DO VMs, in fact I have a machine doing that right now. In fact if push came to shove I reckon you'd even be able to get Windows to boot on a DO VM; it would be difficult but do-able.

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iptables is powerful but definitely not simple. Simple is being able to simply say " allow all outgoing traffic and incoming traffic should only be allowed for HTTP(S) and SSH " and being able to figure out how to do it by just invoking "ufw --help". Maybe someday I'll learn about iptables, I'm sure it's going to be worth it, but for now ufw does the job for me.

> iptables is powerful but definitely not simple. > Maybe someday I'll learn about iptables Hmm... iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ALLOW iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ALLOW iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 443 -j ALLOW iptables -A INPUT -p icmp -j ALLOW iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP So complicated...

> So complicated...

Indeed, it is. Even if you want to cargo cult that without understanding it, you might get bitten because running those commands again will not do what you expect, since they're not idempotent.

You will now reply telling me how to deal with this situation, for example if I want to now listen on a different port, or how I get FTP (or some other protocol that needs "-m state" to work. The need to do this proves that using iptables is more complicated that your example.

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Shameless plug: I have started https://reesd.com/ . Not the S3 protocol, simply scp.

How would you go ahead mounting this, though? SSHFS?

I don't know exactly what I have to implement to support SSHFS. But really in my mind a service like Reesd (or S3) is used through a networked API to read and write files, not through an exposed file system (although sure it can be exposed that way, just that it is not the "philosophy"). E.g. if you implement a music streaming service, you would access mp3 through say a REST API, not on disk, before streaming them.

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why not do both? I program, and have a small self sustaining micro farm. Just placed my order for 28 spring chickens, and 3 turkey's which will provide most of the meat for my family throughout the winter. I will supliment with fish and meat that I catch or hunt down. I also have a vegitable garden which we can most of our food from or preserve in other ways. :) If I want a chicken that tastes just as good as the one…

I envy you. :)

No need for envy, get some land and go to work! It's wonderful. Getting ready to tap our Vermont Sugar Maples for a bit of spring maple sugar production... Nothing like old time, home made, boiled over a open fire, Vermont Maple Syrup!

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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I envy you. :)

No need for envy, get some land and go to work! It's wonderful. Getting ready to tap our Vermont Sugar Maples for a bit of spring maple sugar production... Nothing like old time, home made, boiled over a open fire, Vermont Maple Syrup!

Are you blogging about it? I have often thought of doing this but not really sure about the aspects of it.
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