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Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by judk »

rayiner wrote: post #71
paraboul wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You always give a transaction you received before in order to spend coins. However, you're supposed to use a fresh (source) address for every new transaction (the wallet software does it for you). You can't (with the default wallet software) chose which transaction (called unspent transaction) you use in order to spend you coin (this is called coin control). That is, you can trace coins, not owners, unless you're alw…

If you say, get paid in Bitcoin, one transaction a month, and that's the only way you earn Bitcoin. Will you use the same source address all month?

The payer uses a source address, which changes because each transaction should "kill" the original source, sending it's money to two addresses: the payee and the "change" that goes back to the payer but using a newly invented address.

You can invent a new destination address each time you transact (to get paid or to receive change). You make a new address by picking a random number and doing some math.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by judk »

rayiner wrote: post #36
g4m8i7 wrote: post #13

All of you asking for the transaction ID are incorrigible. The man clearly wants privacy. The kind of privacy that you all opine for every time there's some governmental incursion. Or some startup gets hacked or whatever. Leave the man be.

If the man wanted privacy, he shouldn't have designed a system that broadcasts every transaction you make out onto the entire internet.

Please stop repeating all over HN the ridiculous claim that just because something is visible (with enough work to dig through layers of cloaking) then we conclude that its owner wants it to be seen.

It isn't true for government surveillance of our mail and it isn't true with Bitcoin.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by simonebrunozzi »

malgorithms wrote: post #8

Please don't disclose the transaction. It's a serious decision, at least.

Unfortunately, it would be relatively easy for anyone to find that transaction, even if he didn't want to disclose it. Don't look for Satoshi's wallet, look for the shopper's.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by judk »

gcb0 wrote: post #53
out7 wrote: post #29

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"He bought 2 crepes and paid using his smartphone and our QR code with btc address. One crepe and a lemonade was 1 bitcoin at that time :)" He didn't pay 1 BTC

So it has to be between 1 and 2 btc?

Only if a crepe costs more than a lemonade.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by user24 »

yahelc wrote: post #107
user24 wrote: post #73

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It depends how you use your bitcoin addresses. If you're lazy like me and reuse your bitcoin address for multiple transactions then yes. Let's walk through this with one of my wallet addresses. https://blockchain.info/address/1PWSyqweZ7SZ8AMi9hWRtEU5Cd7P... You can see that I sent 0.00597702 BTC to an address beginning "1Jtfi". That was worth $3.99 yesterday, suggesting a USD pricing structure for that transaction. I…

Sent (well, as soon as my blockchain updates).

Thanks, I really appreciate it! Judging by the timing of your comment I think you are 1AdNb.

It looks like your wallet does it properly, using different addresses all the time.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by georgemcbay »

duaneb wrote: post #110
yuxt wrote: post #61

I am not going to reveal any more information that I already have. I respect his will to stay anonymous. It was just an emotional post without a thought of provoking a witch-hunt. Satoshi has been an inspiration to me, I apologize for any inconvenience I might cause.

I think you were well within your rights (and even the bounds of politeness for a cash transaction). If Dorian is not Satoshi, then this won't be a problem. If he is, this wouldn't be what would prove it. His problems are far, far larger than any one person's claim to resolve, I think.

This wouldn't prove anything one way or another but if it turns out that Dorian was in New York in the later half of 2011 (presumably he would have flown since he lives in CA and thus flight records could probably show one way or another), that would be pretty convincing circumstantial evidence.

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by user24 »

yahelc wrote: post #107
user24 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It depends how you use your bitcoin addresses. If you're lazy like me and reuse your bitcoin address for multiple transactions then yes. Let's walk through this with one of my wallet addresses. https://blockchain.info/address/1PWSyqweZ7SZ8AMi9hWRtEU5Cd7P... You can see that I sent 0.00597702 BTC to an address beginning "1Jtfi". That was worth $3.99 yesterday, suggesting a USD pricing structure for that transaction. I…

Sent (well, as soon as my blockchain updates).

Replying again to say that I am extremely touched by both donations that I received, and I have sent them on to the address being used to gather funds by the bitcoin community as an apology to Dorian Nakamoto.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1ztjmg/andreas_im_f...

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by npizzolato »

Zikes wrote: post #39
rayiner wrote: post #31

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There is no social expectation that store keepers shouldn't talk about famous people that patronize their establishment. In fact, unless the nature of the establishment merits sensitivity, the expectation is the exact opposite.

There is a social expectation that an establishment of any kind not publish their customers' transaction information publicly. If nothing else, it's in poor taste.

I'm not familiar with many details of bitcoin, so correct me if this is wrong, but aren't all bitcoin transactions public for anyone to see?

Re: Tell HN: Meeting Satoshi

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Post by Adlai »

midmagico wrote: post #105
Adlai wrote: post #67

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Most of his fortune is directly traceable from early mining activity: http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/24/satoshi-s-fortune-a-...

Not concretely, and many of those early blocks are mis-attributed.

There's a strong enough suspicion that many people believe he has controls a large amount of funds.
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