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Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by apetresc »

jacalata wrote: post #130
azcoder wrote: post #63

I think the most compelling evidence that Dorian is Satoshi is described here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354326 [EDIT: if an eyewitness account is compelling enough for you, this is evidence. it is to me, apparently not to some.] Dorian (as recognized by the retailer) bought a crepe from one of the first retailers to accept bitcoins, the 1st transaction of the crepe retailer's bitcoin address at 1KfQKmME7…

interesting that you value this testimony so highly, because my weighting of probabilities for 'can a random woman in brooklyn definitively and uniquely identify an elderly japanese man among a line up of elderly japanese men based on a single interaction three years ago' comes down quite heavily on 'no'.

The thing is, if Satoshi Nakamoto actually is any kind of elderly Japanese man in Brooklyn, then it's probably this one. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence (like, for example, his name, his background, etc) that link it to him.

How likely is it that this ISN'T the Satoshi Nakamoto, just another dude with the same name who happened to be an early adopter of the same technology at time when it was very obscure?

Of course this all depends on her story being true or not. But I don't think it depends on how well she would distinguish this Nakamoto from another Nakamoto. If she's telling the truth, high likelihood it's actually him.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by mattbarrie »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #43
mangeletti wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are concerned about the origins of something that has the potential of changing humanity (for better or worse) and dethroning the existing financial hegemony. I feel bad about all the cameras being shoved in his face, but there's nothing wrong with people inquiring.

Holy crap, get over yourself. Bitcoin is a flash in the pan fad. Maybe eventually there will be a cryptocurrency that's worthwhile but bitcoin having the "potential of changing humanity" is utter bullshit. Also, your argument is completely ass-backwards. It doesn't matter how important the issue is, means are just as important as ends. Look at it this way, consider some other examples. Finding out whether or not some…

So is the Internet.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by eurleif »

onewaystreet wrote: post #35

The "real" Satoshi Nakamoto coming forward after all this time just to say he isn't Dorian Nakamoto seems kind of suspicious to me. It's not like Dorian Nakamoto is the first person to have been accused of being Satoshi.

Perhaps he feels more personally responsible in this case, since he chose to use the same name as this man.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by adamnemecek »

ZoF wrote: post #107
adamnemecek wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, how is it relevant?

I was wondering this as well. I ended up skimming the wikipedia article for John Titor[0]. /* I should note that "John Titor" is a fictional persona of a time travelling man. People made fake posts on multiple forums, some including elaborate diagrams of a "time machine" etc... */ If you scroll down to the "in popular culture" section it mentions that in 2006 none other than the very "Martin Pohlman" to whom your par…

This whole thing (Bitcoin, Nakamotos, Titor and now this other dude) is getting a little too complex for me.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Post by schoen »

adventured wrote: post #125

One thing is for certain, if Dorian is the real Satoshi, the Feds - NSA and FBI - are all over him, and they will know for certain whether he is the Satoshi (if they didn't know a long time ago). If Dorian = Satoshi, he's going to be forced in front of the NSA, and interrogated about bitcoin, he will have no choice in the matter (it won't matter if he's no longer involved, and it won't matter if there are no weakness…

NSA isn't a law enforcement agency.

If you get contacted (or arrested or detained) by a law enforcement agency, you could ask to have a lawyer present before answering any questions. Your lawyer can help you assert your fifth amendment rights against self-incrimination.

I don't mean to deny that the Federal government might already know who the creator of Bitcoin is. They may, and they may have quite strong evidence. However, having "no choice in the matter" of whether to reveal one's identity under interrogation is less clear. At least in the context of a law enforcement investigation, the fifth amendment privilege is quite strong when properly asserted, and the government's power to compel answers from a suspect is correspondingly weak.

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