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Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

#101
Is Satoshi saying he's not Dorian evidence of anything? That could also be a ploy to try and throw off the scent, as much as it might be Satoshi trying to save this random sap.

This reminds me of the knights and knaves puzzle for some reason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_and_Knaves

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

#102
post #98

Hmmmmm. Assuming the post was made by the actual Satoshi... Dorian Nakamoto is Satoshi: This is an attempt by him to throw people off his scent, which would be foolish and desperate since chances are the millions of eyes focused on him will find more concrete proof than the Newsweek article, rendering the posting moot. Almost guaranteeing the drama will continue, if not whip it into a larger frenzy. Dorian Nakamoto i…

Dorian == Satoshi [1] It's a desperate attempt to mislead. [1] Here is Dorian making an in-person bitcoin purchase in July 2011: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354326

That is not a source. That's a random comment on the internet.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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post #87
post #83

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Except there's no evidence linking Dorian to that July 2011 crepe. Is there? Someone said "I dunno, he looks kinda familiar?" That's it?

>Someone said "I dunno, he looks kinda familiar?" That's it? That's not what she said. She said it was him. They had conversation and interactions etc to form good memory.

You say "good memory," but there's no evidence of it. The post said "recognized him," though there's a bit of priming (A NEWSWEEK COVER STORY!) to encourage that process along: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354326

Memory is highly fallible. Eyewitness accounts are highly unreliable even after a shorter period of time than three years. The burden of proof is properly on the Dorian == Satoshi folks.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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post #87
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except there's no evidence linking Dorian to that July 2011 crepe. Is there? Someone said "I dunno, he looks kinda familiar?" That's it?

>Someone said "I dunno, he looks kinda familiar?" That's it? That's not what she said. She said it was him. They had conversation and interactions etc to form good memory.

come on. you are hanging on evidence best generalized as "someone on the internet said someone they know says they recognize him".

by these standards, the Newsweek article itself seems like sufficient evidence.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

#105
post #21

Even more interesting: look who signed Satoshi's key on April Fools Day of last year [1]. http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&sear... (ignore the signature from today, anyone could have done that in the brouhaha following today's disclosures) Based on that, it looks pretty clear to me that Dorian Nakamoto decided to "latch on" to the Satoshi Nakamoto founder's myth, either as a way to boost his re…

I might be reading this incorrectly, but it looks like the Dorian Nakamoto key was created in 2008? Can that be forged? http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&sear...

Yes.

http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&sear...

http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&sear...

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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Relevant and disgusting: http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/post_37...

Wait, how is it relevant?

I was wondering this as well. I ended up skimming the wikipedia article for John Titor[0].

/* I should note that "John Titor" is a fictional persona of a time travelling man. People made fake posts on multiple forums, some including elaborate diagrams of a "time machine" etc... */

If you scroll down to the "in popular culture" section it mentions that in 2006 none other than the very "Martin Pohlman" to whom your parent poster linked attempted to patent the time machine that John Titor claims to own...

So maybe this Martin Pohlman had something to do with(created?) the fake John Titor persona... Really renders the whole thing pretty un-comical.

Your parent poster could definitely have been a whole lot clearer though.

[0]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

#108
post #29

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People are concerned about the origins of something that has the potential of changing humanity (for better or worse) and dethroning the existing financial hegemony. I feel bad about all the cameras being shoved in his face, but there's nothing wrong with people inquiring.

Be curious all you want, but doing this to anyone who is not some kind of public official is wrong. Even worse, what if it really is not him? Anyone who has been through that kind of illness deserves to be left the heck alone if they want to be.

I'm not suggesting anybody bother him at his home or invade his personal life otherwise, simply that it's OK to inquire.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

#109
post #4

What a crazy bunch of events in the Bitcoin world today. Of course, this isn't necessarily proof that Dorian isn't Satoshi. (I personally don't think that he is, but I guess we'll see.) Regardless, it sure will be nice when the media stops hounding this guy. Especially if he really isn't Satoshi. This could have the potential of completely ruining somebody's life, particularly one who seems rather private like Dorian…

Isn't it convenient that, right when there's a minor cascade of failures in Bitcoin related things, a journalist from Newsweek just happens to figure out who Satoshi Nakamoto must be?

I think the more convenient answer had to do with Newsweek going back into print, myself.

Re: Satoshi Nakamoto denies being Dorian Nakamoto

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post #76
post #73

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Unfortunately, that proves nothing. Early on, there were so few people mining that practically everyone had a "large volume". As such, if you pick any arbitrary bitcoin transaction at that time, it's highly likely it will have originated from a large volume source in the recent past. I think it's more likely a case of mistaken identity; there are many people in this world, and I think that the chance of someone remem…

>Unfortunately, that proves nothing. Linking Dorian to Bitcoin at any time proves everything, proves Dorian = Satoshi. If Dorian paid for crepe in July 2011 with Bitcoin, Dorian is lying and Dorian = Satoshi. There was a large Bitcoin Conference in New York at that time, giving good reason to be there. The retailer said she recognized Dorian as the customer. He didn't want his picture taken or name recorded. Good odd…

That is the most spurious logic I have encountered all week. Dorian lying about the specifics of his involvement with bitcoin does not logically imply that he must also be lying about not being Satoshi.
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