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Re: Scala 2.11.0-RC1 is now available

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Post by cbeustwatch » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 2:55 AM UTC

bad_user wrote: post #25

laureny wrote: post #23

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> Prof Odersky has been quite vocal about the feature bloat and lets hope the future releases are more conservative in that sense. Languages never get simpler as they age, and Scala is certainly proof of that rule. If anything, advanced features that make up for good academic papers have priority over fixing bugs and streamlining the libraries. Paul Phillips, a Typesafe cofounder, recently left the company and went o…

For real? Paul Philips is an awesome developer, contributed a lot to Scala and he did quit because he thought that Scala was headed in the wrong direction. These are the facts. On the other hand the kind of problems he described are problems that happen in every mainstream language, either due to the pressure of keeping it stable and of backwards compatibility (you know, real world concerns) or because current langua…

You should not respond to lauren Y. This is a sock puppet account used by Cedric Beust.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7358238

Re: Scala 2.11.0-RC1 is now available

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Post by joostdevries » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 11:02 AM UTC

cbeustwatch wrote: post #31

bad_user wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For real? Paul Philips is an awesome developer, contributed a lot to Scala and he did quit because he thought that Scala was headed in the wrong direction. These are the facts. On the other hand the kind of problems he described are problems that happen in every mainstream language, either due to the pressure of keeping it stable and of backwards compatibility (you know, real world concerns) or because current langua…

You should not respond to lauren Y. This is a sock puppet account used by Cedric Beust. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7358238

I was wondering about the persistent negativity about Scala since it runs counter to my own very positive experiences with Scala and Play. For me it hits just the sweet spot between monadic goodness and getting stuff done in the JVM eco system.

For Scala 2.11 I'm excited about the focus on performance of map and flatmap in List. Those are my bread and butter at the moment. It's amazing how intuïtive that becomes once you use it everyday for dealing with futures, collections etc and you forget about the mathematical monad etc underpinnings for a moment.

I hope that splitting xml parsing off into a module will reinvigorate xml support that's highly performant and easy to use. Of course json is all the hotness. But there's a lot of xml services out there to be used. So that's a core tool for a lot of applications.

I can't wait to try out the compiler/sbt speed improvements in sbt 13.2. I seem to recall that there are talks on unifying the compilation of sbt and the IDE. That's something I look forward to since I tend to use the ~ continuous run/test/compile options of sbt and then having another compilation going on at the same time within my IDE seems wasteful.

I do hope that the Eclipse Scala IDE gets enough love and will continue to improve. A lot of companies in the Java space got used to free IDEs. (I know that's penny wise) So having a good free IDE is a strong enabler for grass roots Scala adoption.

Together with the super support for JS MVC applications that's coming up in Play 2.3 I'm looking forward to putting this to use.

Re: Scala 2.11.0-RC1 is now available

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Post by frowaway001 » Fri, Mar 07, 2014, 8:22 PM UTC

joostdevries wrote: post #32

cbeustwatch wrote: post #31

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You should not respond to lauren Y. This is a sock puppet account used by Cedric Beust. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7358238

I was wondering about the persistent negativity about Scala since it runs counter to my own very positive experiences with Scala and Play. For me it hits just the sweet spot between monadic goodness and getting stuff done in the JVM eco system. For Scala 2.11 I'm excited about the focus on performance of map and flatmap in List. Those are my bread and butter at the moment. It's amazing how intuïtive that becomes once…

> I was wondering about the persistent negativity about Scala since it runs counter to my own very positive experiences with Scala and Play.

Yeah, it's mostly the same people with multiple accounts.