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Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by ck2 »

Phlarp wrote: post #44
ck2 wrote: post #38

Why do the press feel entitled to show up on someone's doorstep in mass? That is quite literally trespassing. They just feel like they can get away with it. Leave him alone, if he wanted to be found he would have shared it awhile ago.

>Why do the press feel entitled to literally show up on someone's doorstep in mass? Mostly? The first amendment...

Not on your doorstep.

Free press means the GOVERNMENT cannot restrict their free speech.

First amendment does not mean as an individual you can go harass someone at their home.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by Steko »

VMG wrote: post #37
georgemcbay wrote: post #31

While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…

If you look at the internet comments of Dorian Nakamoto, it is obvious that he is not the same person that wrote the whitepaper or participated in the bitcoin forums: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... His skill level is completely different.

The idea that these reddit links are some kind of smoking gun is a bad case of rationalizing.

FWIW, my Father in law is a first generation Asian immigrant who is an engineer and for whom English is a second language.

His emails to my wife are like the one above - broken English, poor grammar.

But I've seen some documents that he's written for work - the early stages of patent applications, for instance - and they read like someone else wrote them, even though my FIL is the one who wrote them as they'd yet to have been submitted internally. Proper grammar, more formal prose. There is, every now and then, a phrase or word that seems out of place and not something a natural speaker would say, but the difference between in grammar between work and personal emails is night and day.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by Phlarp »

VMG wrote: post #37
georgemcbay wrote: post #31

While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…

If you look at the internet comments of Dorian Nakamoto, it is obvious that he is not the same person that wrote the whitepaper or participated in the bitcoin forums: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... His skill level is completely different.

Some of those links show him speaking in broken english with obvious misspellings, others are well structured and make him seem very obviously technically adept and attentive to at least hobbyist standards.

"Hi Nilayam,

1. Which wheels have spokes and how many spokes for each wheel? My UK built Pearse's 2-6-4 in 15mm/ft (1/20.3 scale) has all the wheels as solid disc (no spokes) and I'm wondering if this is true on the real prototype's Kitson locomotives of the same class, such as the 4-8-4 shown in your photos.

2. What were the thickness of the tyres? I think the thickness should be 4.5" or 4.75" for a 2ft 6inch gauge track with 5" diam. axles?

If you can get close up photos of the wheels, that'll be great. The L&M's truck wheels were 1 ft 11 inches and the drivers were 2 ft 6 inches I believe.

Dorian Nakamoto USA"

While these differences in writing style aren't conclusive in either direction; it does indicate that he is at least aware of how he conveys information online.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by sktrdie »

VMG wrote: post #37
georgemcbay wrote: post #31

While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…

If you look at the internet comments of Dorian Nakamoto, it is obvious that he is not the same person that wrote the whitepaper or participated in the bitcoin forums: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... His skill level is completely different.

This other comment by the same Dorian shows that he's capable of writing better english: https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/preserved-bars...

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by workhere-io »

ck2 wrote: post #38

Why do the press feel entitled to show up on someone's doorstep in mass? That is quite literally trespassing. They just feel like they can get away with it. Leave him alone, if he wanted to be found he would have shared it awhile ago.

to literally show up on someone's doorstep in mass?

Hate to be that guy, but... it's "en masse" :) http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/en%20masse

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by Steko »

VMG wrote: post #40
Steko wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I missed the ethics class where we decided to give the superrich whatever they want.

You also missed the class where you should have learned that human rights are universal and are not diminished by being wealthy. It's also the wrong guy by the way.

Because asking a (possible) rich guy a question is a huge violation of his human rights.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by sarreph »

bcoates wrote: post #21
lotsofmangos wrote: post #15

I'm Satoshi Nakamoto, and so is my wife. But seriously, if this really is the Satoshi Nakamoto and he has been seriously ill with two seperate life threatening illnesses in the recent past, how come none of those bitcoin he supposedly owns have shifted on medical bills?

The claim that he'd have to publicly go onto MtGox to get funds out of his Bitcoin supply is absurd as well. If you're going to move a few million dollars, you can afford to do it right as a private sale using agents who won't blab to the press or anyone else (as long as you pay your taxes) Everyone would know that an early adopter moved some coins, but the IP address of the Starbucks that his lawyer's tech guy makes…

He doesn't like to pay taxes, apparently...

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by dinkumthinkum »

I didn't know that the origin of the bitcoin was in so much doubt.

But after seeing this story, the reddit stuff, and other comments around the web, this just seems like a lot of complicated drama. I don't see how serious people will take Bitcoin seriously let alone have it bring about a libertarian revolution.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by georgemcbay »

VMG wrote: post #37
georgemcbay wrote: post #31

While I do feel bad for this guy's current situation (he clearly doesn't want any attention... sort of like the bitcoin Satoshi...hmm!), I really don't understand why so many people are jumping to the conclusion that this story is wrong/fake/some sort of conspiracy or whatever. If there were a reasonable way to settle it for sure, I'd bet a substantial amount of money that this is the bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto. The pi…

If you look at the internet comments of Dorian Nakamoto, it is obvious that he is not the same person that wrote the whitepaper or participated in the bitcoin forums: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpuer/the_newsweek... His skill level is completely different.

There is substantial variation in those samples themselves let alone between those samples and the bitcoin whitepaper. Some of them are written like bad text messages and some are perfect but awkwardly formal, and some are perfectly conversational. If those posts were consistent and at odds with his bitcoin writing (on the forums -- including the whitepaper is silly, virtually everyone writes differently for 'formal' papers) maybe they'd be decent proof, but they are all over the map.

Also, how about adding this link to this list:

https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/preserved-bars...

Another Dorian post on trains which is in a lot of ways remarkably similar to the bitcoin guy's writing.

Re: Alleged Bitcoin Creator Satoshi Nakamoto Denies Bitcoin Involvement

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Post by anigbrowl »

Sambdala wrote: post #16
skwirl wrote: post #6

In the video he says "I'm not involved in Bitcoin" (present tense) which is not inconsistent with what was reported in the Newsweek article: >"I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection." I say this because the headline is trying to…

Well the newsweek article also included a back and forth with a police officer that likely never happened, and they also just published an article that "proves" heaven exists because a former scientist went into a coma and saw some pretty things while dreaming. I'm not sure there's a high barrier to meet here, or that we can't assume he was misquoted in the original article.

a back and forth with a police officer that likely never happened

I find this complaint ridiculous, like there's no possible way a police officer could know such things because otherwise they'd been a l33t h4x0r. Police officers read newspapers in about the same proportion as everyone else.

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