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The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Post by Crito »

gnaritas wrote: post #330
sktrdie wrote: post #300

Here's a comment left on a forum by this Dorian person: https://www.national-preservation.com/threads/preserved-bars... Satoshi's punctuation style with the double-space after the dot is a distinctive feature of his writing, used in both the official Bitcoin publication and on forum posts. Looking at the HTML source of that review, you can notice this exact punctuation style.

Pretty much anyone who learned how to write in the age of typewriters double spaces after a period, this is not a unique trait for anyone in their mid 30's or up. Hell I still do it, it's deeply ingrained.

As far as I know, many public school typing classes still teach double-spaces. It isn't until you get to things like classes in journalism tracks at universities that the concept is dispensed with.

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Post by alasdair_ »

"I obtained Nakamoto's email through a company he buys model trains from."

In Europe, this would be completely illegal. I'd suspect that in the US this at least breaks the privacy policy of whatever site Nakamoto was using.

"Two weeks before our meeting in Temple City, I struck up an email correspondence with Satoshi Nakamoto, mostly discussing his interest in upgrading and modifying model steam trains with computer-aided design technologies. "

I understand that this is sometimes how journalism is "done" but the sneakiness of it all seems pretty low.

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Post by fivethree »

cgore wrote: post #302
spindritf wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the paradox of the deeply conservative anti-federal government types who work for the government - directly or as a fed contractor Those are the people who have a realistic, first hand understanding of the government innerworkings. Also, a contradiction between believing that allocation of capital would be more efficient under a less centrally-influenced system, and being willing to accept higher pay and benefits fro…

I think a lot of people seem to be confusing Libertarianism with Anarchism. Libertarians typically do see roles for SOME government, and those roles are typically the military, judges, roads, police, and the like. Not other things though, so no Social Security, no Obamacare, no National Endowment for the Arts, and no space program (other than for space weapons, so get rid of NASA and establish some sort of "US Star F…

Libertarians view of government is, 'I want to be allowed to do whatever I want while everyone else is restricted to doing what I want them to do.' It's a dumb ideology that falls apart with literally any amount of thought.

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Post by noblethrasher »

jdjb wrote: post #307
johngalt wrote: post #217

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If anti-government and inexperienced then: 'These libertarians are just backwards and don't understand government' If anti-government and experienced then: 'Hypocrites!' else: more government It's a stronger position to oppose something you are experienced with and benefit from. Imagine a nuclear engineer who's advocating that the new plant she's working on is being built dangerously by the people in charge. Would yo…

I wouldn't refuse to listen her but I'd question her morality if she continues to knowingly put the lives of people in danger just for her pay cheque.

Which is precisely why argumentum ad hominem is something to be wary of.

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Post by pg_is_a_butt »

talmand wrote: post #296
candybar wrote: post #259

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This is what I mean - your baseline assumption here is that African Americans as a whole are dependent on government help and expanding social safety net is about keeping African Americans dependent on government help. This exact attitude you have - association of black with dependence on government help - is what has been used in American politics to mobilize those who benefit from government programs to vote for po…

Excellent deflection from the person's point. In a way, you didn't just deflect it but reflected it back onto the person who made the statement. You make an accusation, person reverses accusation to see if it still holds true, you double down on accusation while ignoring the point of the reversal.

you're both idiots.

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Post by droopybuns »

arrrg wrote: post #206
polymatter wrote: post #187

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If I understand your comment, you believe you are ok with sounds posting that list of sensitive private information, but only if he "put the work in" to find it. I guess thats the only reason you don't post all of that information publically yourself. Your information is clearly interesting to the public, look a member of the public specifically asked for it. How about if I compensate you, is that a reasonable substi…

No, you didn’t understand me. A. You have to put in the work and actually find stuff out. That’s what journalists do. B. You have to report on something relevant and interesting to the public. Some random person who didn’t do anything of any note is not relevant. Publishing identifying information on them is unethical. Publishing identifying information on someone hugely influential is very much ethical.

I'm sorry, but the journalists I have met do not do A.

They conceive of a narrative and find totems that can support their position.

You are espousing ideals that are taught in school, but rarely achieved in the real world.

That whole theme of unethical in B happens most of the time.

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Post by pyre »

frogpelt wrote: post #231
candybar wrote: post #172

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This isn't everything, but racism is a significant part of what's motivating the economic right: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics Obviously, a lot of people are caught up in the bubble without being racist or even being aware of the implicit racism of those around them, but much of the motivation behind the right's demonizing rhetoric against the freeloaders seems rooted in race. Edit: also, http://e…

That's what you've heard? Couldn't the argument be made that the other side is rooted in racism too since it appears their goal is to keep a large percentage of African Americans completely dependent on the government fixed-income for their whole lives? That's what I've heard, anyway.

So the argument is that by creating (e.g.) a fixed-income, everyone that makes use of it will by definition become hopelessly dependent on it?

I think that the parent post was arguing that cutting social programs disproportionately affects African-Americans.

I see it this way. Taking away assistance that people are currently relying on is guaranteed to hurt them. Giving someone assistance with the goal of keeping them dependent on it forever seems less likely to have the intended affect. How do you guarantee that people don't use the assistance to better themselves? If the goal is to keep a group of people down, as a whole, this doesn't seem like a very effective strategy.

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Post by cairnsh »

Houshalter wrote: post #313
cairnsh wrote: post #294

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JTSummers: I don't think it's doublethink to complain about a situation you personally benefit from. (Actually, it gives you more credibility, because you have a personal stake in the problem: You yourself would be hurt by the change you propose.) But it is doublethink if you hold other people in contempt for getting benefits from tax revenue, or if you think they are immoral for doing so. For example, I think Ayn Ra…

Ayn Rand withdrew Social Security checks (to get back what the government took.) There is nothing necessarily wrong with that.

Yes, but this is not really related to what I said.

Ayn Rand, and any other person who has become independently wealthy in a way that has nothing to do with the government, can despise looters and be consistent. Government workers in particular cannot.

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