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DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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I would love to see DO or Linode do a S3 type service as well. I prefer the persistent virtualization of DO and Linode to EC2 but also want to use a nice quick persistent file store that isn't on my own slice.

I could just use S3 from Linode but that would result more paid bandwidth and increased latency.

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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"The company is also working on IPv6, load balancing and eventually storage." Looking at the feedback from their user base, and even rom my own experience, different storage options would be way more useful than IPv6 or even load balancing.

It's been incredibly difficult to get an answer out of them on whether they pool bandwidth[1], which would allow you to just build your own load balancers on their smallish instances while leveraging the transfer included in the rest of your clusters. I finally got an answer last night[2] 1. http://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocea... 2. https://twitter.com/jedgar/status/441314391301296128

Communication is my biggest issue with DO - I generally like their service but it's majorly frustrating when they just refuse to answer any questions about things like IPv6 (The best I could get out of them on that was 'Look at the UserVoice page about it' - which I already had hundreds of times over the years. Not really a great answer since the latest post by then from a staff member was something like eight months ago saying there's be a public beta in October which never needs up happening)

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

#33

I would love to see DO or Linode do a S3 type service as well. I prefer the persistent virtualization of DO and Linode to EC2 but also want to use a nice quick persistent file store that isn't on my own slice. I could just use S3 from Linode but that would result more paid bandwidth and increased latency.

Shameless plug: I have started https://reesd.com/. Not the S3 protocol, simply scp.

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

#34
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Adding to the commentary on here with something not so gushing: * kernels lag terribly behind the distributions meaning you're wide open sometimes. * can't resize or add storage * no freebsd support or custom kernels * VM availability problems. If you want to have another box, you aren't guaranteed to get one. * no IPv6 * somewhat shonky security reputation. * cant deliver to yahoo mail from their AMS2 IPs I've been…

My logs show increased break-in attempts after moving to Digital Ocean. Their IPs are hot targets for hackers, making it all the more important to properly secure my droplets, something I'm having a hard time doing in Linux. With Linux, it's lot of beating around the bush. Overcomplicated config files, a lot of disabling and removing of things one don't need, having to deal with a messy and outdated firewall. With Op…

I think that's a little unfair... Your server needs to be hardened against drive-by SSH password guessing and similar nonsense regardless of how or where it's connected to the internet.

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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I use linode and was drawing comparisons between two: 1. 8 cores on linode is what binds me to it. Linode rules here 2. Digital ocean is cheaper than linode 3. More Network transfer in linode (minimum 2TB) 4. Digital ocean offers more RAM 5. Private network - Does not exist on Linode. Shame. DO Rules.. What else...

> 5. Private network - Does not exist on Linode. Shame.

What do you mean? Actually private network did not exist on DO until recently and it's been on Linode for a long time.

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My logs show increased break-in attempts after moving to Digital Ocean. Their IPs are hot targets for hackers, making it all the more important to properly secure my droplets, something I'm having a hard time doing in Linux. With Linux, it's lot of beating around the bush. Overcomplicated config files, a lot of disabling and removing of things one don't need, having to deal with a messy and outdated firewall. With Op…

I think that's a little unfair... Your server needs to be hardened against drive-by SSH password guessing and similar nonsense regardless of how or where it's connected to the internet.

That is true but as per the poster above, I've seen 10x the attack traffic on a DO IP address so any zero-days and you're already herded into a predictable net block ready to be poked.

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

restart your aws server = goodbye data or hello network hdd

That's true in the same way that double taxation is a concern when setting up a corporation. It kind of is, but it's really not. Due to downvotes, I guess I better explain what I mean: Basically, EC2 provides instances where "if you restart your server you lose your data". You don't use those when that would be a problem for you, you use EBS backed instances which do not have this problem. Or you do it some other way…

what about the none-bytes-free bandwidth ?

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

#39
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We run our infrastructure on both AWS and DigitalOcean. 1) DO consistently beats the price performance. 2) DO has simple pricing model --> No ondemand / reserved instances 3) AWS is more feature rich but DO continues to add new functionalities like private networking and new data centers

Must be nice to have your providers competing with each other. Everyone knows Bezos loves a good ole race to the bottom better than anyone. I suspect we'll see even steeper AWS price cuts this year in response.

Re: DigitalOcean Raises $37.2M From Andreessen Horowitz to Take on AWS

#40
I'm a (moderately [1]) happy customer. But I have to ask, isn't this industry slowly turning into just virtualized hardware leasing? After the management tools commoditize, and I think there's a solid risk of that, isn't it just price and DC-location that differentiate?

And in that vein, wouldn't the winner in each area just be the one who bought their hardware the most recently? Instructions/dollar are still increasing on each CPU generation, but it'll take more than one generation for each machine to pay itself off. So, whoever is closest to the current generation pays the least per instruction, and can charge the least.

Or, maybe it's memory/bandwidth, which are mostly commodity, but slightly bottlenecked by the hardware (e.g, max on a motherboard, NIC throughput). Maybe the combination of prices in cpu, memory, and bandwidth leave enough variation between competitors to keep the field a little open? I donno.

[1] Modulo concerns about their ssh key management. I haven't looked after the last news ping on it.

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