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The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They basically published not only his full name and home address, but that of his whole family. I might argue that it's often difficult to publish someone's home address without publishing his family's address too.

And I might argue that that is an excellent reason to not publish his home address in the first place.

Given a full name, it is trivial for anyone to find someone's home address on account of it is already published, most often by local governments.

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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post #101

Topic other than discussing the irresponsibility of "outing" a guy using the clever tricks of using his name and public records look ups. > A libertarian, Nakamoto encouraged his daughter to be independent, start her own business and "not be under the government's thumb," she says. "He was very wary of the government, taxes and people in charge." > What you don't know about him is that he's worked on classified stuff…

Rhetoric aside, I've met almost no libertarians of the anarchist persuasive in D.C., the kind who reject the existence of government. There are a lot of small government conservatives, though, but I think they object more to the 60% of the budget that is comprised of transfer payments and aid to states than the 5-10% of the budget is comprised of federal payroll. More generally, compartmentalization isn't hypocrisy.…

> I've met almost no libertarians of the anarchist persuasive in D.C.

Anecdotal I know, but quite a few of my friends are former military of some type and their facebook feeds are jam pack full of libertarian group reposts.

> Everyone has the programs that they like and the ones they don't.

It's too bad that the rhetoric is "shrink government" not "I don't like this specific program". Because the former statement creates hypocrisy when a program they like is shrunk, but of course picking and choosing individual programs to shrink/cut requires actually knowing what's going on above and beyond catchy political slogans and reposting a repost from a Fox news article who's headline ended in a question mark.

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Being labeled Satoshi regardless of truth is pretty much going to get you robbed, kidnapped or killed. This dude lives in this town and has $400M of untraceable currency? The article gives his name, face, address and relatives. You can be sure as hell that somebody will do something stupid to try and get to it. I wouldn't wish this label upon anybody, it's exactly why the community tries to avoid speculating about it…

Doxxing? That is such a stupid term. It’s called journalism. Reporting on people with a huge impact on the world is sort of what journalists do. Of course that includes identifying information. Sure, publishing identifying information of people who did nothing special is unethical but that can hardly be said about Satoshi. If the story is correct then this is some insanely rich dude who got rich by inventing Bitcoin…

It's not journalism when everything hints at the wrong person being doxxed http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpmo8/the_face_beh...

He now likely has ground to sue Newsweek, sadly I'm afraid their pockets ain't too deep these days...

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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The author of the piece can be reached in these ways: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zpmo8/the_face_beh... If you think this article is a dangerous invasion of privacy, tell her and her employers (Newsweek).

> If you think this article is a dangerous invasion of privacy, tell her and her employers (Newsweek). How adorable! You think Newsweek is going to give Leah a talking to, because of the piece constituting a 'dangerous invasion of privacy'? That's just really too cute. We live in the age of the Facebook. We live in a place where dollar rules, and folks like Zuck and Jobs, and other actors of questionable ethics excel…

> We live in the age of Facebook

And how is this relevant, does this Satoshi has a facebook profile? Did the journalist send a fried request and article's Satoshi accepted? If none of this happened then I see no connections.

> We live in a place where dollar rules, and folks like Zuck > and Jobs, and other actors of questionable ethics excel.

Agreed. Mandela and Ghandi excelled too, in areas more important than business... Of course being rogue helps you excel in some areas, but it's not the only or main characteristic.

> No, Newsweek is not going to punish Leah, Newsweek has actually just recognized an employee who's able to expertly stir the pot, attract attention, and sell a lot more rags. She's getting a nice raise.

Given the fact that NW is a failed magazine, both financially and morally, I believe they probably give her a raise cut. But I don't think this is going to revamp their sales... Their articles, in all areas, are of very poor quality. If the magazine doesn't upgrade the content quality swiftly, it will face extinction soon enough.

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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post #101

Topic other than discussing the irresponsibility of "outing" a guy using the clever tricks of using his name and public records look ups. > A libertarian, Nakamoto encouraged his daughter to be independent, start her own business and "not be under the government's thumb," she says. "He was very wary of the government, taxes and people in charge." > What you don't know about him is that he's worked on classified stuff…

Alternatively, if you're partial to pg's theory that Bitcoin was produced by a government, you might find enough support in the article to keep that idea alive, seeing Nakamoto as an agent of influence for people still inside the US government. Some things that seem to suggest otherwise could be explained away (so he wrote the implementation all himself? All the better to hide external influences on the high-level design. He disappears at the mention of a CIA connection? Just what you'd expect of someone trying to obscure his connection with the US "intelligence community"). That said, I don't really feel it's likely. (Partly because my hunch is that if US agencies really did want to run such an agent of influence they'd be more likely to choose someone who was a bit more subtly "mobbed up" (spooked up?) than Nakamoto.) I haven't studied the Bitcoin timeline or this latest article really closely, though.

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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post #101

Topic other than discussing the irresponsibility of "outing" a guy using the clever tricks of using his name and public records look ups. > A libertarian, Nakamoto encouraged his daughter to be independent, start her own business and "not be under the government's thumb," she says. "He was very wary of the government, taxes and people in charge." > What you don't know about him is that he's worked on classified stuff…

Story time: I knew a guy who was in to network security and was smart and experienced enough that the only employers who could fully take advantage of his talents were government departments or banks. He worked in different roles for both for a while, but it ate him up the whole time.

The cognitive dissonance became too much, he took some time off and last I heard he was working for a small start-up, probably taking a huge pay cut in the process.

I guess the other path is to develop an internal logic that somehow justifies you working for what you despise so that you can get through the day. "I'm surrounded by idiots, sheeple and corporate whores! I'm not one of them! I'm smarter than that!"

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh god yes. I'm currently a relatively junior flunky in the Marine Corps, and the GS civilians who work here are hilarious. "We need to cut the fat!" We work at a minor airbase in the middle of nowhere... oh. Oops. Whatever we are, it sure as hell ain't muscle. "Government spending is out of control" while talking about how they exploit the DTS system to get as much per diem as possible. "Those lazy people who expect…

Taking advantage of the existing situation for maximum personal gain doesn't indicate doublethink. It only indicates that they care more about themselves than they care about "the greater good" - which, in my opinion is how it should be. Somebody's going to be getting paid for doing nothing - it might as well be me.

But then don't bitch about it.

Re: The Face Behind Bitcoin?

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post #101

Topic other than discussing the irresponsibility of "outing" a guy using the clever tricks of using his name and public records look ups. > A libertarian, Nakamoto encouraged his daughter to be independent, start her own business and "not be under the government's thumb," she says. "He was very wary of the government, taxes and people in charge." > What you don't know about him is that he's worked on classified stuff…

the paradox of the deeply conservative anti-federal government types who work for the government - directly or as a fed contractor Those are the people who have a realistic, first hand understanding of the government innerworkings. Also, a contradiction between believing that allocation of capital would be more efficient under a less centrally-influenced system, and being willing to accept higher pay and benefits fro…

Nationalist and libertarian are not orthogonal in practice. Try talking to any self professed libertarian about free movement of labor.

On the theoretical side it goes back to the whole Trotskyism/Stalinism debate.

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