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Re: Exist

#71
"We gather all of the data you create about your life"

I don't see this being taken seriously, probably because it is impossible, because there is too many data, about too many things, and each action we take generate some "data" that can be tracked in infinitely different categories, so stop claiming that you'll do this.

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#72
Wow so much dismissal and negativity here. I admit that some of these metrics are trivial and perhaps useless, but I think this is a looking glass into how life will be in the future. Everything in your life will be monitored and there will probably be interesting knowledge that surfaces. For example, I would like to know what foods I eat that effect my mood positively or negatively. I would like to know emergent routines that are detrimental to my health. I would like mountains of data to tell me if I am really happy in my life, and if not what I might consider doing to change that. Understanding these things for ourselves is difficult because we are completely biased and effected by short term noise. Is this service the answer? probably not - but starting somewhere is good.

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#73

Micro-analysing ones life in this manner is wrong and counter productive on so many levels. Knowing how many tracks you listen to a day is interesting trivia only. Knowing how long you sleep for each night could be useful, but only if you have a problem with sleep and know, scientifically, what you're looking for. If you're consistently missing out on sleep and feeling ill as a result, you shouldn't need exist.io to…

It's entertainment mostly, distraction. Is it all bad? It depends.

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#75

Micro-analysing ones life in this manner is wrong and counter productive on so many levels. Knowing how many tracks you listen to a day is interesting trivia only. Knowing how long you sleep for each night could be useful, but only if you have a problem with sleep and know, scientifically, what you're looking for. If you're consistently missing out on sleep and feeling ill as a result, you shouldn't need exist.io to…

Agreed. The real value in this data is when it is grouped with 100s, 1000s or more people. One person's data is a statistical anomaly, group it in a significant sample size, then you get real insights. I agree with their page - selling data is gross, but that's where the value is.

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I strictly measure how much weight I can lift in the gym. This helps me to know if my program is on the right track or not. If things are not progressing upwards I know I have to tweak something. I not so strictly measure my food intake, but I know enough now to correlate certain diet choices with my effectiveness in the gym. Things I don't measure but would like to are various hormone levels and other health markers…

Measuring sleep - Lots of apps for that. What foods and health supplements do you take to get that good hormone profile? What foods have you found correlate to gym performance?

There are, but there's something about having my phone in my bed with me that makes me feel a little uncomfortable.

High fatty foods are supposedly good for testosterone production. Lower glycemic foods and higher protein is good for reducing cortisol production.

I have experimented with stuff like DHEA, Indole-3-carbinol and avena sativa for more testosterone and less estrogen. But as I haven't measured I can't quantify any difference it made.

Higher carbs seems to make me stronger, but also makes me fatter and less energetic post lunchtime. I tend to move between high fat and high carb depending on what phase of weightlifting I am in, strength building or fat reduction.

Something I haven't measured, but keep meaning to is how much of an effect total calories consumed has compared to the nutritional breakdown of those calories. It could be higher carbs makes me stronger because it is just an easier way to get more calories in.

If I could measure these things more finely rater than just speculate I could work out how to optimise my intake.

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#78

Wow so much dismissal and negativity here. I admit that some of these metrics are trivial and perhaps useless, but I think this is a looking glass into how life will be in the future. Everything in your life will be monitored and there will probably be interesting knowledge that surfaces. For example, I would like to know what foods I eat that effect my mood positively or negatively. I would like to know emergent rou…

I think what people are saying is that this concept has already been started by many companies already. It's just another take on a model that people who've tried QS for awhile already understand it's not the right solution.

I had gotten into QS for a bit, but as others have said, once you start to use the products and follow the methodology, you start to see how what sounds great in theory doesn't work so well in practice.

That said, I hope they do well, because, why not. I just know that this isn't as interesting to me as it would have been 6 months ago, having some experience in the space.

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#79

Wow so much dismissal and negativity here. I admit that some of these metrics are trivial and perhaps useless, but I think this is a looking glass into how life will be in the future. Everything in your life will be monitored and there will probably be interesting knowledge that surfaces. For example, I would like to know what foods I eat that effect my mood positively or negatively. I would like to know emergent rou…

How will you measure whether the constant act of measuring affects your mood positively or negatively?

"Quantified self" is a bit like trying to turn a quantum phenomenon into classical physics by taking precise measurements and bounding the parameters until some structure appears to emerge. You've got a theory then, but instead of describing the original phenomenon it's an image of the choices you made to get that data.

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#80

Micro-analysing ones life in this manner is wrong and counter productive on so many levels. Knowing how many tracks you listen to a day is interesting trivia only. Knowing how long you sleep for each night could be useful, but only if you have a problem with sleep and know, scientifically, what you're looking for. If you're consistently missing out on sleep and feeling ill as a result, you shouldn't need exist.io to…

I disagree - certainly about the steps. I use the Moves app on the iPhone, which tracks, without me having to think about it, how far I walk on a daily basis. I've found that it's motivated me to walk further than I used to.

I have a choice on a daily basis whether to walk to work, catch the bus all the way or do some combination of the two. It used to be easy to convince myself that I was walking further than I actually did (things like "I only caught the bus half way today, that's almost the same as walking the whole distance").

But when I've got an app tracking me every step of the way, that's not possible. I can get to Thursday, check my app and realise that I'm several miles short of where I should be, so if I'm going to hit my targets for the week I'd better get walking.

If anything, I'd love to be able to capture more stuff about my life automatically - it would be a lot harder to convince myself that the doughnut I've been given doesn't count because it was free (or whatever my latest lie to myself is) if I've got an app telling me otherwise.

Most people lie to themselves about things like the amount of exercise they do, the amount of junk food they eat and the amount of alcohol they drink. If they could have the truth presented to them as cold hard fact, that would probably be quite an eye opener.

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