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Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

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Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#11

Why should I have to ruin my naming standard for them? Personally I don't mind them mapping my SSID.

Why do you have to ruin anything? You aren't forced to use a technology that broadcasts your identification to everyone. If you do choose to use Wifi you can choose a name that Google won't track. Since the technology does broadcast it publically anyone else and every other company CAN track it.

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#12
post #2

How about simply "fuck off Google". We shouldn't have to do that and then reconfigure our piles of client devices. Also isn't it about as useful as the do not track header? What about other vendors mapping it and data sense etc? I moan on behalf of others as my network is ethernet due to things like this.

If you're so opposed to it, I hope you only ever use GPS and not A-GPS.

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#13
Ehh... It's pretty fucking ridiculous that I should have to change my networks SSID in order to NOT be mapped.

What if I had some established nomenclature. My old SSID was Nikola with a password some variant of Tesla... Nikola_nomap just doesn't have the same spark.

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#14
post #2

How about simply "fuck off Google". We shouldn't have to do that and then reconfigure our piles of client devices. Also isn't it about as useful as the do not track header? What about other vendors mapping it and data sense etc? I moan on behalf of others as my network is ethernet due to things like this.

If you're so opposed to it, I hope you only ever use GPS and not A-GPS.

The only time I use GPS is with my Garmin and a landranger in hand.

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#17
post #8

How about you only opt-in people who add "_map" to their SSID?

Because that would make their service completely useless, because not enough people would opt-in. I think ideally they should have some easier way to opt-out -- maybe submit your SSID/BSSID for removal directly to Google.

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#18
post #6

Anyone know a way to query the API for your BSSID and see if you're in their database, or do they just respond to queries with a location rather than per-network confirmations?

How to do the queries yourself: https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/business/ge...

How to look for access points near you (view this from a mobile): http://test-geolocation.appspot.com/

Or just use curl! Put in a mac address to query for:

curl -d '{version:"1.1.0",request_address:true,wifi_towers:[{mac_address:"00:00:00:00:00:00"}]}' www.google.com/loc/json

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#19
post #7
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read what this does? It's used to aid geopositioning. No data from the network is logged, other than its SSID/MAC address and its approximate location.

Yes I understand it entirely. There are enough AP's around me for Apple Maps to know if I'm in bed or having a poo. You can see the marker move. More services like this are bad. They already know who I am. What could possibly go wrong? Edit: when I say more services are bad like this I mean we should be opt-in for both collection and usage rather than opt out.

That problem is entirely due to you choosing to run Google/Apple software on a network attached computer that you carry with you everywhere (even, apparently, to poo).

Mapping the source of radio signals is common and expected. Your Wifi router is basically a big bright lightbulb that flashes with a unique pattern, and can be seen through walls. You can't legitimately ask the rest of the world not to notice it, the same way you can't request that no one use your porch light as a landmark.

Re: Append "_nomap" to your AP's SSID to opt out of Google Location Services (2011)

#20
Once upon a time the default privacy model used to be "opt-in". Which then became "opt-out" thanks in large parts to Google. Of course it helped that very few "lay people" take active steps to opt-out.

It appears "rename and opt-out" is the latest model. I'm guessing even fewer lay users will take this step.

Technically this allows Google to claim it gives people an easy way to opt out, but in practice nothing much is likely to change as those who were worried about privacy were probably not broadcasting their SSID publicly to begin with.

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