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Re: Mopidy – Server which can play music from multiple sources

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Post by kingosticks » Tue, Mar 04, 2014, 2:17 PM UTC

rdeboo wrote: post #24

stingraycharles wrote: post #4

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I'm unfamiliar with both. How do they compare, and which would you recommend?

I've run both. They solve different, but related problems. * Tomahawk is a desktop app. It integrates various music sources so you can play from whatever source is available. I can search for whatever and it will look on my local harddisk, on my Synology NAS, on Soundcloud, youtube, etc. It will play from the "best" source, determined by search match accuracy and bitrate. What's pretty cool is that it is integrated w…

You can search for arbitrary songs with most extensions and I believe this includes mopidy-soundcloud. You must have used something much older than v0.18 as it was released about a month ago and needs no more configuration than any other media player i.e. where's the music. Finding a an MPD client that works how you want is the tricky bit.

Re: Mopidy – Server which can play music from multiple sources

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Post by adamcik » Tue, Mar 04, 2014, 2:18 PM UTC

roel_v wrote: post #27

adamcik wrote: post #10

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Part of the reason for having started mopidy was that we wanted something MPD like, but with Spotify support, which at the time was not reasonable to integrate directly. Now we've evolved quite a bit since then and are now at a stage where we are modular music server, where the MPD frontend is just one of many possible ways of talking to our server. Additionally everything is an extension, so we don't end up like som…

Can mopidy play several streams at the same time, through separate sound cards? I'm looking for something like that for a multi-room audio system.

Single stream at this point in time, so you would need a mopidy instance per output. So doable but not pretty or something I would really recommend.

Re: Mopidy – Server which can play music from multiple sources

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Post by adamcik » Tue, Mar 04, 2014, 2:22 PM UTC

rjzzleep wrote: post #21

adamcik wrote: post #10

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Part of the reason for having started mopidy was that we wanted something MPD like, but with Spotify support, which at the time was not reasonable to integrate directly. Now we've evolved quite a bit since then and are now at a stage where we are modular music server, where the MPD frontend is just one of many possible ways of talking to our server. Additionally everything is an extension, so we don't end up like som…

i'm assuming spotify and soundcloud management doesn't really work with the mpd clients does it? also, i think part of the reason why i moved away from mpd, and towards cmus, was because of things like ape, and library management. i see there is a beets plugin for library management. what about cue sheet support? how complex, simple, would it be to add cue sheet support?

Do you mean playlist management? The upcomming 0.19 release has a target of fixing that for the MPD frontend, from there the backend authors just need to make sure they implement the right interfaces and this will work.

CUE sheets as in using them as playlists? There are a few ways of doing this depending on what your use case is, but very much doable. Drop by #mopidy on freenode or send us an email and we can help work out the details.

Re: Mopidy – Server which can play music from multiple sources

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Post by adamcik » Tue, Mar 04, 2014, 2:28 PM UTC

fenesiistvan wrote: post #23

I am searching from a long time for some (free) app with the following features -can grab music from multiple sources (local, youtube, etc) -i can vote for each track (up/down/rating) -based on my votes it will guess my favorites (with some entropy so sometime will try to show me new kind of music) Is there such a music player?

This idea keeps coming up and I believe mopidy is perfect for building such a system (of course I am biased as one of the main contributors).

The way to go about building this with mopidy is essentially one of the following:

- Create the voting system based on the MPD protocol to talk to mopidy

- Create the voting system using our JSON-RPC websocket access to the core APIs.

- Create a frontend in python with full access to the core APIs.

Each of these of course have it's advantages and disadvantages. But to me one of our main strengths is the architecture we've designed over time and how people can use mopidy almost like a framework for exposing the media server in a novel way.

Re: Mopidy – Server which can play music from multiple sources

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Post by kingosticks » Tue, Mar 04, 2014, 2:32 PM UTC

rjzzleep wrote: post #21

adamcik wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of the reason for having started mopidy was that we wanted something MPD like, but with Spotify support, which at the time was not reasonable to integrate directly. Now we've evolved quite a bit since then and are now at a stage where we are modular music server, where the MPD frontend is just one of many possible ways of talking to our server. Additionally everything is an extension, so we don't end up like som…

i'm assuming spotify and soundcloud management doesn't really work with the mpd clients does it? also, i think part of the reason why i moved away from mpd, and towards cmus, was because of things like ape, and library management. i see there is a beets plugin for library management. what about cue sheet support? how complex, simple, would it be to add cue sheet support?

As in embedded cue sheets? Are you sure this isn't supported? At first glance it looks like gstreamer understands these and hence mopidy should.

EDIT: I'm wrong: it's not in currently supported version of gstreamer (sorry).

Re: Mopidy – Server which can play music from multiple sources

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Post by roel_v » Wed, Mar 05, 2014, 10:35 AM UTC

adamcik wrote: post #32

roel_v wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can mopidy play several streams at the same time, through separate sound cards? I'm looking for something like that for a multi-room audio system.

Single stream at this point in time, so you would need a mopidy instance per output. So doable but not pretty or something I would really recommend.

Is it a lot of work to implement? For example, do you already pass a 'stream id' to each command to identify multiple streams, or would that have to be added to everything? And is it something that somebody is working on or that is planned for the near future, or just on some 'nice to have someday' list?