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Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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Honest question: If you don't care about the coffee taste, why not drink a glass of water and pop a caffeine pill?

Or Coke (and a caffeine pill), or whatever you prefer. Bad coffee is a perplexing choice.

Thermogenic diet pills are crap for direct weightloss but they are effectively an energy drink in pill form without the water or sugar.

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This. Plus I have yet to see any non-pod-style coffee machine that can competently make one cup at a time.

I have a manual grinder and an Aeropress. Making one cup at a time is easy, and the taste is superior to pod-style coffee in my opinion. The time I spend grinding the coffee is part of the enjoyment.

Never heard of the aeropress before. Will have to try it. Thanks for the tip!

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I have a manual grinder and an Aeropress. Making one cup at a time is easy, and the taste is superior to pod-style coffee in my opinion. The time I spend grinding the coffee is part of the enjoyment.

Really? http://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/bbbb918e28fa404b836... I much prefer that machine to the crappy k-cup machines.

Hard to tell what machine that is from just a tiny photo.

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This case doesn't have anything to do with DRM as the title suggest. It's more clear in the article: "the java-bean equivalent of DRM". As far as I can tell it's actually just allegations of patent abuse and anti-competitive vertical integration. Keurig had a patent on the technology for both machine and pod. That patent expired in 2012, allowing third-party vendors to start making pods. Treehouse Foods argues (among…

If the patent is expired, one wonders if some company may reverse engineer the Keurig 1.0 design, and continue their manufacture (along with all the factories that are already tooled for the 1.0 cups.)

If the patent is expired, then reverse engineering had better not be necessary, or else the original patent was insufficiently detailed to be valid.

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I waste 7 pounds of petroleum driving to work, and .01 lbs from my morning k-cup. My time has value, and I am not going to waste it greenwashing.

How is using a good old coffee maker with beans a waste of time? You're getting better coffee and you're only spending a minute on brewing.

Well part of the problem is the claim about better.

Craft beers are superior to generic domestic lite beers, right? No, it's strictly subjective to every individual's preference.

I've known some people that prefer cheap or generic coffee, made in a clunky old coffee pot, slightly burnt. Is their taste wrong / worse / inferior? It can't be, it's their taste.

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Really? http://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/bbbb918e28fa404b836... I much prefer that machine to the crappy k-cup machines.

Hard to tell what machine that is from just a tiny photo.

Soz for the smal shot.

Basically it's a machine with 3 compartments:

Coffee, Decaf Hot Chocolate

And you can push a button, it grinds, and outputs your cup.

I prefer it vastly to the k-cups.

Re: Keurig Will Use DRM In New Coffee Maker

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This case doesn't have anything to do with DRM as the title suggest. It's more clear in the article: "the java-bean equivalent of DRM". As far as I can tell it's actually just allegations of patent abuse and anti-competitive vertical integration. Keurig had a patent on the technology for both machine and pod. That patent expired in 2012, allowing third-party vendors to start making pods. Treehouse Foods argues (among…

It might end up just being a new shape but the CEO's wording implies that it will be closer to what is used in printer ink cartridges. Following the trail from the submitted article to the article it links to and to the article that one links to finally takes us to the transcript of the CEO's earnings call: http://seekingalpha.com/article/1853341-green-mountain-coffe...

"While we're still not willing to discuss specifics about the platform for competitive reasons, we are confident it delivers game-changing performance. To ensure the system delivers on the promise of excellent quality beverages produced simply and consistently every brew every time, we use interactive technology to help us perfectly brew all Keurig brew packs. Because of this the system will not brew unlicensed packs."

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How is using a good old coffee maker with beans a waste of time? You're getting better coffee and you're only spending a minute on brewing.

Well part of the problem is the claim about better. Craft beers are superior to generic domestic lite beers, right? No, it's strictly subjective to every individual's preference. I've known some people that prefer cheap or generic coffee, made in a clunky old coffee pot, slightly burnt. Is their taste wrong / worse / inferior? It can't be, it's their taste.

Well if taste is your only metric, we can probably conclude that perception is _less_ objective than one which factors in freshness of beans (oxidation), amount of mycotoxins, waste, etc.

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I actively try to dissuade people from buying Keurig machines, or any "coffee pod" machine and this is just another reason why. Aside from the fact that the coffee is watery, the pods just add such an unnecessary amount of garbage to something that doesn't need to generate any waste. I think the concept is cool but re-usable pods are the way to go. This is stupid of Keurig.

For people whose main complaint is watery coffee, but are not opposed to pod systems in general, try Nespresso. I find them a lot better than the coffee I have had from Keurig and Starbucks machines.

The coffee is pretty good -- better than most coffee shops, but not as good as a great one. Apparently they are actually used by a lot of restaurants when you order a coffee.

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I could never justify the cost of a Keurig when a traditional coffee maker costs just 20% the price. After using a drip machine for many years I finally decided to brave a more unique solution, the Aeropress. Now I know what great coffee tastes like. I tried a Keurig equivalent recently and I can't believe how much worse it tastes. With a Keurig you pay a premium price for poor quality coffee.
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