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What motivated trig functions for me was writing 5 line BASIC programs as a kid to draw circles, spirals, etc. Realizing that COS was the X coordinate and SIN was the Y coordinate made it all clear. Unfortunately there's no easy, low-friction way for kids today to do that with their PC.
I feel like the educational and software worlds have failed to work together to provide a modern, powerful, 21st century answer to the TI-83. Being able to animate and play with your math helps a lot. GeoGebra is a good example, but it's not the holy grail.
How our 1,000-year-old math curriculum cheats America's kids
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#62I was a terrible math student in school. Looking back, it wasn't because the material was hard, or boring, but because it was completely unmotivated. They may as well have been asking me to organize piles of toothpicks or count ceiling tiles to fill up the class periods. There was simply no sense to it. I think this is partially understood, and the attempted solution is to try to find applications for the math you're…
I think you're absolutely right that math has to be motivated. A lot of the effort to motivate it is to provide problems that students understand relate to the real world. Most of them come across as contrived. You hit on a good concept with the idea of incorporating the history of math. I'm working on a Geometry curriculum that does just that. Understanding math in the context of a grand story of mankind trying to u…
Yeah, absolutely. In fact, I'd say that it's just as important that students receive confirmation of this history and motivation in their other subjects. For example, in various history classes, we learn about kings and wars and important philosophers. But we rarely learn about mathematicians and why their contributions were important, of if they were polymaths, we discuss their non-mathematical contributions, but omit their mathematical ones entirely.
Then in writing and literature we spend endless hours on appreciating tiny non-relevant symbols, but don't read something like Ringworld and spend part of a session calculating and relating the size of it. Conversely, in Math class, writing a paper on the history and influence of Platonic solids or similar would have been an interesting break and let kids struggling with crunching numbers take an interest and shine a little.
Or imagine a math course that analyzes things like agricultural output from Roman times to modernity, involving geometry, arithmetic, algebra, percentages (taxes to the king!), nutrition, etc. Extend out to how greater agricultural output per unit land produces surpluses that enable people to take up other labors like politics or art or music.
Off the cuff examples that would need more careful thought, but hopefully the idea is sound.
Bringing math into other non-math subjects, and bringing arts into non-art subjects I think helps prop up what students see as isolated subject "silos" that have nothing to do with anything.
Literature and history courses mutually reinforce each other, and math and science course mutually reinforce each other, but there's a tremendous gap between these two groups of courses where they don't reinforce each other.
This really needs to end because it all is connected and builds relevance for students.
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#63just like painting and decorating isn't called interior design
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#64This reminds me of Lockhart's Lament, which I highly recommend reading http://www.maa.org/sites/default/files/pdf/devlin/LockhartsL...
> Two weeks of content are stretched to semester length by masturbatory definitional runarounds.
That Lockhart describes trigonometry as "masturbatory" I find ironic. Lockhart argues that math is fun for its own sake. Personally, I think that math is fun per se. I.e. patterns and ideas and puzzles are fun. But historically, much of math was invented as engineering-shortcuts. E.g. trig identities for navigation, newton's calculus for friction, etc. The philosophical Greeks and their geometry I think are the exception. So I think most people would rebut that math's actual raison d'etre lies in it's tangible application. The manner in which Lockhart describes math is why physicists joke that theoretical math is nothing more than masturbation.
> In certain of the arts and crafts, we sometimes do precisely this--requiring a child to "express himself" in paint before we teach him how to handle the colors and the brush. There is a school of thought which believes this to be the right way to set about the job. But observe: it is not the way in which a trained craftsman will go about to teach himself a new medium. He, having learned by experience the best way to economize labor and take the thing by the right end, will start off by doodling about on an odd piece of material, in order to "give himself the feel of the tool." [1]
I do agree that math curriculums are excruciatingly insipid. And Lockhart makes some good points. But I think this other link makes a strong argument too, which is contradictory to what Lockhart argues. So I was thinking: for each unit, maybe teachers could explain what problems the unit was actually solved historically. This differs from the article, because 6th graders don't really need to know about Riemann Surfaces if that's not what the unit covers. This differs from your Lockhart, because I don't think it's as "masturbatory". But it still affords students a glimpse of where all this pedagogical grinding is headed, allows students to reify to something relevant, and retains that "puzzle" feeling.
Again, I like puzzles. But teachers have a responsibility to teach everyone, not just the select few who solve rubiks cubes in their spare time. How much of that would be solved by removing the educational mandate on math, I don't know.
[1] http://www.scribd.com/doc/36325362/The-Lost-Tools-of-Learnin...
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#65I was a terrible math student in school. Looking back, it wasn't because the material was hard, or boring, but because it was completely unmotivated. They may as well have been asking me to organize piles of toothpicks or count ceiling tiles to fill up the class periods. There was simply no sense to it. I think this is partially understood, and the attempted solution is to try to find applications for the math you're…
The problem is that if you don't fill the period with busywork? The students don't build up the intuitive, gut-level skills they need to handle the higher-level stuff. Math requires building muscles in your head, and muscles take reps. Lots of reps. Let's look at the elementary level: it's not enough to simply introduce BEDMAS or least-common-denominator and write a few problems that get the student to check off "oka…
However some concepts, limits, derivatives and integrals i remember perfectly well (5+ years later) because my math teacher explained how the all fit together, what they represented wrt the real world and how they can be useful and that actually got me interested.
Yea you need to know the basics, but i daresay busy work isn't the best way to teach them.
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#66> By hiding math's great masterpieces from students' view, we deny them the beauty of the subject. The problem is that math's great masterpieces are problems and proofs. High school math educators are largely the folks who hated doing proofs during their education, and they're just as uninformed about what the interesting open problems are as their students.
Wow, that's a really bold statement. Do you have a proof of that?
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem is that if you don't fill the period with busywork? The students don't build up the intuitive, gut-level skills they need to handle the higher-level stuff. Math requires building muscles in your head, and muscles take reps. Lots of reps. Let's look at the elementary level: it's not enough to simply introduce BEDMAS or least-common-denominator and write a few problems that get the student to check off "oka…
personally, busy work just never sticks for me, i don't remember almost any of the math i did in HS and uni that was just "do these problems over and over till you remember it" because it just wasn't all that interesting, and this goes for any subject. However some concepts, limits, derivatives and integrals i remember perfectly well (5+ years later) because my math teacher explained how the all fit together, what th…
The basic, core stuff is the opposite. Fractions, bedmas, etc. you don't care enough to talk about, but if I handed a problem that used those concepts you could do it in your head, because they're skills that have been developed down to an instinctive level.
Common factoring is dull. There's nothing to say about common factoring. But if I show you an equation where you can apply it, you'll spot it instinctively because you've had common factoring ground into your reptilian brain.
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#68I'm very much a math person, but I think this author is being rather naive. In the current political climate surrounding education, it seems like madness to say, "Teach math more like we teach art!" After all, art classes in the US are pretty much first on the chopping block for the many, many people who think education should be all about test scores and checklists. I would love to see more kids exposed to "real mat…
I think first steps in improving math education are teaching concept instead of calculation, and focus on understanding math principles instead of memorizing.
As a math/CS major, when I wanted to fully understand the basic concepts of pi, pythagorean theorem, I looked back at how they were originally discovered. It gave math a story behind it, and these concepts stuck with me because I understood them. I think we could improve people's understanding of math through telling the story of many of the concepts, rather than throwing concepts at students and hoping that they stick. Stephen Wolfram discusses the concept will on Concept vs. calculation: http://www.ted.com/talks/conrad_wolfram_teaching_kids_real_m...
Memorization is the road to failure in math, and many teachers push memorization rather than understanding.
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#69I was a terrible math student in school. Looking back, it wasn't because the material was hard, or boring, but because it was completely unmotivated. They may as well have been asking me to organize piles of toothpicks or count ceiling tiles to fill up the class periods. There was simply no sense to it. I think this is partially understood, and the attempted solution is to try to find applications for the math you're…
> Except that once you hit even basic algebra, you quickly run out of applications a young student can relate to. Algebra is problem solving. You have a formula describing the problem, and want to re-arrange it to find one of the variables. It has a lot of useful and logical applications. Trigonometry though ... screw that. "Bob the builder has made a truss, and wants to figure out the angle A. He doesn't own a protr…
Seriously, as a video game programmer, you use trig _every day_. If you want to find the distance between two points when you have the angle (eg. I'm firing a projectile at a certain angle), use cosine for the length of the x axis and use sine for the y axis. You get the hypotenuse from using pythagoras' theorem. If you want to find the angle between two points, use arc tangents.
Once kids have mastered all of that, you can teach them law of cosines and get into linear algebra; simple rotational matrices which can let you do collision detection and a whole bunch of other really, really cool stuff.
So yeah, Bob the builder might be boring as shit as a word problem, but Bob the builder might be a pretty cool video game. Without trig, as a game, Bob the builder is probably going to be boring as shit too.
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#70I was a terrible math student in school. Looking back, it wasn't because the material was hard, or boring, but because it was completely unmotivated. They may as well have been asking me to organize piles of toothpicks or count ceiling tiles to fill up the class periods. There was simply no sense to it. I think this is partially understood, and the attempted solution is to try to find applications for the math you're…