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The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by timje1 »

mikegioia wrote: post #34
CmonDev wrote: post #33

Please check your facts before posting to avoid being a clueless moron: C# is not just a static language it supports dynamic typing, C# is not just an object-oriented language it's a functional language as well. The post is downright offensive to C# developers. EDIT: ok, I figured it out - it's a troll post to stir the HN community a bit. Lot's of other good languages get undeserved bashing.

For PHP he comes out of the gate saying "Don’t just assume PHP is horrible."! Apparently the ONLY redeeming quality of PHP is the vast number of developers who know PHP?

[Not horrible] does not mean [has lots of redeeming qualities].

Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by timje1 »

nhmit wrote: post #40

Whenever someone says PHP is useless I know that they have no idea what they are talking about. Being ugly is one thing, being useless is something quite different and in case of PHP this could not be further from the truth.

Strange, this article doesn't call PHP useless.

Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by Tomis02 »

isxek wrote: post #23

No mention of Lua? I guess the author hasn't tried it yet, either. (I haven't, but I was curious about his opinion on the language.)

After years in the C++ swamp, programming Lua feels like being a world-class sprinter. Sure, there are places where it could be less verbose (the 'function' keyword, if-then-end), but overall it's liberating to have so much power with so little typing. Ok, it's a visceral (not technical) impression, but there's plenty of places to read about Lua online. I highly recommend giving it a try.

Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by romanovcode »

V-2 wrote: post #12

Based on the code snippet, I'm not surprised he thinks C# is "verbose" with "lots of boilerplate" and "resembles Java", because the snippet is written as if it WAS Java, or at least written 10 years ago. Compare his GetFrequencies implementation with idiomatic, LINQ version: http://pastie.org/8834650

BUT IT ISN'T SEXY ENOUGH!

Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by vorg »

mcv wrote: post #24

No Groovy? If you want to address which is the best JVM language, you've got to at least mention Groovy. Its advantages include being trivial to learn for the vast hordes of Java developers, while making programming a lot more fun in a Ruby-like way. When to use it? When you want the JVM, and productivity is a bigger concern than performance.

> If you want to address which is the best JVM language, you've got to at least mention Groovy

You could make that argument for all of the many ecosystems mentioned in the article, e.g. because for Unix/Linux scripting only bash is mentioned, you could have opined "If you want to address which is the best Unix shell, you've got to at least mention zsh".

Groovy's just a dialect of Ruby anyway, except being specific for one platform and having a different syntax. All the functionality underneath the syntax is based off Ruby, and even its two applications with any traction are based off Ruby versions. The MOP was put in in 2005 specifically for Grails, which started off as a launder of Rails.

Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by UK-AL »

CmonDev wrote: post #33

Please check your facts before posting to avoid being a clueless moron: C# is not just a static language it supports dynamic typing, C# is not just an object-oriented language it's a functional language as well. The post is downright offensive to C# developers. EDIT: ok, I figured it out - it's a troll post to stir the HN community a bit. Lot's of other good languages get undeserved bashing.

C# is better than your standard dynamic typing you see with ruby, and python.

It has type inference(static, but you don't have to declare types), straight out of functional languages.

Re: The Best Programming Language (or How to Stop Worrying and Love the Code)

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Post by mcv »

vorg wrote: post #48
mcv wrote: post #24

No Groovy? If you want to address which is the best JVM language, you've got to at least mention Groovy. Its advantages include being trivial to learn for the vast hordes of Java developers, while making programming a lot more fun in a Ruby-like way. When to use it? When you want the JVM, and productivity is a bigger concern than performance.

> If you want to address which is the best JVM language, you've got to at least mention Groovy You could make that argument for all of the many ecosystems mentioned in the article, e.g. because for Unix/Linux scripting only bash is mentioned, you could have opined "If you want to address which is the best Unix shell, you've got to at least mention zsh" . Groovy's just a dialect of Ruby anyway, except being specific f…

Grails is a bit more than simply Rails for Groovy. There are a few things that Grails does very differently, partly due to it being built on top of Spring and Hibernate.

Also, Groovy+Grails is far more enterprise-ready than Ruby on Rails. Something as basic as proper unicode support is still very recent in Ruby, for example. Also, multithreading comes as naturally to Grails as it comes to Java, but not to Ruby on Rails.

They are absolutely very similar, but there are important differences that go a lot deeper than just the different syntax.

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