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Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by moted »

Keyframe wrote: post #17
thesethings wrote: post #6

I suspect I have a super different background and interests than the author of this article, but totally agree. I'll start from an arts angle. I really like music, and one of the main reasons I live in Portland is the incredible music scene. Coming from San Francisco, one can see a million reasons why so many bands (and artists) move from SF/Oakland to here. A million more houses with basements, let alone dwellings t…

I'd like to see that dungeon donut shop - google does nothing, can you help?

I can only assume he's talking about the lovely Voodoo Donuts.

http://voodoodoughnut.com/

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by rcoder »

jsackmann wrote: post #3

My reaction is mostly personal: This is f'ing awesome. I've lived in NYC for most of the last decade after growing up in the northwest, and I've had the urge to move...somewhere. Just in the last few days, I came to terms with the fact that while I didn't really want to move "back home," Portland is the ideal place. Decent-size place, nice climate year-round, plenty of culture, great variety of stuff to do within a d…

> Added bonus: If you live in Vancouver, WA (north suburbs of PDX) and work from home > (or just in WA), there's no state income tax.

Please, please, please don't suggest that more people take advantage of this loophole! The Vancouver/Portland commute has already rendered I-5 useless, and the residents on the Washington side are currently lobbying aggressively for a new 12-lane bridge (whose cost would be paid largely by Oregon) across the Columbia to ease the congestion without taking any steps (light rail, tolls, etc.) to reduce the amount of traffic.

Portland is what it is in part because residents of the city and Multnomah county are willing to pay relatively higher taxes than those in neighboring areas for a higher level of service from the city. Our transit + public services are pretty good, but the folks who drive down from Vancouver and ride the MAX through Fareless Square to shop without paying sales tax or income tax are just freeloading.

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by kscaldef »

mikeryan wrote: post #11
davidw wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I grew up in a mid-sized town several hours away, Eugene? That's where I'm from. > nice climate year-round, Let's be honest, if it were, then it would be inundated with people because it is a nice place in so many other ways. It's not, though, IMO; it's gray and drizzly from October to early summer (and usually stops raining the 5th of July). If people don't mind that, it's a great place, though, although it does t…

Upmodded for calling out the "nice climate year-round" bit. Portland can be miserable with rain.

Portland gets the same amount of rain as New York, but it hardly ever rains hard, and many people manage without even owning an umbrella. It doesn't get very cold in the winter, and there's typically only a week or two of 90+ weather (with low humidity) in the summer. Personally, I enjoy the seasonality far more than the uniform sunnyness of (parts of) California.

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by kscaldef »

rcoder wrote: post #22
jsackmann wrote: post #3

My reaction is mostly personal: This is f'ing awesome. I've lived in NYC for most of the last decade after growing up in the northwest, and I've had the urge to move...somewhere. Just in the last few days, I came to terms with the fact that while I didn't really want to move "back home," Portland is the ideal place. Decent-size place, nice climate year-round, plenty of culture, great variety of stuff to do within a d…

> Added bonus: If you live in Vancouver, WA (north suburbs of PDX) and work from home > (or just in WA), there's no state income tax. Please, please, please don't suggest that more people take advantage of this loophole! The Vancouver/Portland commute has already rendered I-5 useless, and the residents on the Washington side are currently lobbying aggressively for a new 12-lane bridge (whose cost would be paid largel…

I generally agree with your sentiment, but you should realize that people who live in WA and work in OR still pay OR income tax.

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by Keyframe »

moted wrote: post #21
Keyframe wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see that dungeon donut shop - google does nothing, can you help?

I can only assume he's talking about the lovely Voodoo Donuts. http://voodoodoughnut.com/

thanks guys, I thought it was a dungeon, looks nice though.

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by thesethings »

moted wrote: post #21
Keyframe wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see that dungeon donut shop - google does nothing, can you help?

I can only assume he's talking about the lovely Voodoo Donuts. http://voodoodoughnut.com/

Yup, that's what i (she :D ) was talking about. Lots of crazy donuts, vegan, bacon, cold cereal (!). Two locations now, for all you visitors. (Coming up in Portland: Djangocon, fyi)

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by thesethings »

callmeed wrote: post #20
Keyframe wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see that dungeon donut shop - google does nothing, can you help?

might be referring to voddoo donuts http://voodoodoughnut.com/ could be wrong though ... every time I try to go there, the line is around the corner

Yeah, there can be a wait. Did you know they have a second location eastside now?

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by rcoder »

kscaldef wrote: post #24
rcoder wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Added bonus: If you live in Vancouver, WA (north suburbs of PDX) and work from home > (or just in WA), there's no state income tax. Please, please, please don't suggest that more people take advantage of this loophole! The Vancouver/Portland commute has already rendered I-5 useless, and the residents on the Washington side are currently lobbying aggressively for a new 12-lane bridge (whose cost would be paid largel…

I generally agree with your sentiment, but you should realize that people who live in WA and work in OR still pay OR income tax.

Sure, they pay state income tax, but not property taxes, which are a major part of where the city and county get their funds for transit and public services.

The differences between Portland and Vancouver are particularly stark, as the lack of an urban growth boundary in Clark county (where Vancouver is located) makes real estate (and therefore property taxes) much cheaper on the Vancouver side.

When you get right down to it, my point is simply that people who like a progressive, tax-heavy city like Portland enough to spend a lot of their time there should probably be willing to pay the taxes that go along with that lifestyle. Otherwise, they're just making it that much harder on the full-time residents.

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by moted »

thesethings wrote: post #26
moted wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can only assume he's talking about the lovely Voodoo Donuts. http://voodoodoughnut.com/

Yup, that's what i (she :D ) was talking about. Lots of crazy donuts, vegan, bacon, cold cereal (!). Two locations now, for all you visitors. (Coming up in Portland: Djangocon, fyi)

My apologies for assuming that everyone that reads hacker news was male. ;)

Re: Portland, Oregon, is (one of the) most entrepreneurial towns in the world

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Post by thesethings »

moted wrote: post #29
thesethings wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, that's what i (she :D ) was talking about. Lots of crazy donuts, vegan, bacon, cold cereal (!). Two locations now, for all you visitors. (Coming up in Portland: Djangocon, fyi)

My apologies for assuming that everyone that reads hacker news was male. ;)

heh. no worries :D
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