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Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by kangaroo5383 »

cheez wrote: post #139
beambot wrote: post #23

To all the people kvetching in the comments... this is the live stream for "YC's Female Founders Conference" [1]. That's why "female" is in the post title. I'm an ardent supporter of the effort, and I hope (much like startup school) that YC is able to make it into an annual event! Very inspiring! Also, my wife is in attendance. I look forward to hearing her reactions later tonight. If the live stream is any indicator…

What if only 10% of women are interested in working in tech but 20% of men are interested? (Random numbers not based in reality). Does a 50/50 split make sense? My personal experience is that there are fewer Black and Hispanic high tech workers than pretty much any other demographic, including women, if you get out of the big cities. I wish the answers were clearer, but all I can say is that if women are actually dis…

It's not a conscious choice people make. It's a subjective perception issue, which is harder to fix. Example: In a room with a male and a female founder, most people will ask the male for technical help, while assuming the female is less competent technically. Interviews are highly subjective, so is wage determination.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by sn »

cube_yellow wrote: post #131
GFK_of_xmaspast wrote: post #122

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I wonder what the rate of attrition is for women in other fields. Also w/r/t/ negotiation and pay, check out things like this: http://pwq.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/08/23/036168431245... """ Policy makers, academics, and media reports suggest that women could shrink the gender pay gap by negotiating more effectively for higher compensation. Yet women entering compensation negotiations face a dilemma: They have to…

What are the "social consequences of having negotiated"? (Full text is paywalled)

A woman doesn't even have to negotiate to be a money grubbing bitch.

At one company, I switched from W2 to being a contractor such that I could invest pre-tax in a different business. This company offered me a much higher hourly rate then I would have asked for on my own, asked me to work 40 hours/week, and then complained bitterly about how much I cost. What was I supposed to do, negotiate a lower rate?

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by danilocampos »

spaceborn wrote: post #152
danilocampos wrote: post #147

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I think you'll find /r/mensrights is on another website. I am sure they will welcome you there.

Why don't you address the comment you're responding to instead of lobbing insults?

...because there's no meaningful substance to address, for starters?

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by tiredoflurking »

danilocampos wrote: post #50
Crake wrote: post #16

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I usually don't bother with links to things that are phrased in such a way as to suggest support of segregationist policies. I don't care about women in tech. I care about people in tech.

> I don't care about women in tech. I've noticed. When you collect a few more life experiences, perhaps get a decade of career under your belt, you'll learn how toxic it is when monocultures form. You'll learn about the blind spots. The exclusion. The lack of productive conflict from varying ideas. And perhaps at that point you'll learn why "caring about people in tech" means caring that no people feel actively exclu…

The amount of tone-policing you've received for this comment absolutely floors me. My perception from this thread is that men can say whatever offensive thing they want about women, but as soon as someone says something that might be slightly harsh in defense, suddenly people care about the tone of the argument. Suddenly you're "attacking."

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by kangaroo5383 »

lkbm wrote: post #119
serf wrote: post #85

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I feel exactly the same way, and i'm glad i'm not the only one. If you want to fix scenarios that look segregationist, fix the root cause. Reinforcing one segregation that appears to be a polar opposite of what you have too much of is just as damaging. it's not a tipping scale scenario.

> fix the root cause How? Just tell women to stop feeling marginalized? There are countless subtle ways a all-male (or all-female or all-Christian or all-straight or all-gay or all-white or all-black or all-[insert demographic here) subculture will do things unwittingly that make people not in that demographic uncomfortable. As a member of the majority in almost every respect, I've rarely experienced that, but I'm no…

Insightful comment, thank you for posting that. Ignorance and bigotry are powerful forces.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by erichocean »

My wife applied and I was surprised by the unseriousness of the application process.

If you've gone through the online YC application process, imagine you dumbed that down for a 10 year old who only had 10 minutes to complete it and only had to answer one question, along the lines of "Why is America the best country on Earth?"[0]

Here's the rejection email my wife got for those that are curious:

Thank you for applying to the Female Founders Conference. Unfortunately we couldn't accept you this year. There was such a large number of applications that we had to turn away hundreds of people we would otherwise have accepted.

We will be streaming the event live on our website, and are looking into options for even larger venues in the future. We really hope you will apply again.

Best,

Y Combinator Team

http://femalefoundersconference.org

[0] Bonus points for anyone who gets that reference. :)

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by jvns »

jonalmeida wrote: post #36
Crake wrote: post #17

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Yeah, same. :/ Funny, isn't? All the Adria Richards of the world claiming to want to increase the exposure of women in tech are actively discouraging exactly that.

It's an interesting point. I think it's discouraging young male entrepreneurs. Hacker School has special funding for women wanting to apply and while I consciously ignore this, sub-consciously, I feel that I have a less likely chance of getting in so why bother applying.

Hacker School judges everyone the same way -- they'd love to admit everyone who's friendly and excited about becoming a better programmer.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by spaceborn »

MartinCron wrote: post #151
spaceborn wrote: post #150

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Perhaps you should elaborate on your own deep understanding of the subject rather than simply alluding to it. Why is it that SJW types are so quick to insult and demean anyone who disagrees with them? It's very unpleasant. Your beliefs are not the forgone conclusion you treat them as.

Why is it that SJW types are so quick to insult and demean anyone who disagrees with them? It's very unpleasant Is this the angle that you're coming from now? I thought that it was liberals and white knights and feminists that were so thin-skinned and sensitive?

It's not really an angle, but mostly a response to the content of your comment and certain other comments to be found in this thread, and my own general observations (which are hardly scientific of course).

At any rate, you've not really addressed my comment (the one you're replying to) - but I do feel as though your reply is meant to mock me, which, to my thinking, reinforces said observations. Excuse me if mockery wasn't your intention.

If Crake has such as a shallow understanding of the subject, as you say, perhaps you could enlighten all of us with your deep understanding of the subject? Merely asserting that someone's incorrect doesn't carry much weight by itself. This might lead one to think that you're unable to demonstrate the validity of your assertion by argument - i.e., that your statement is invalid.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by maxerickson »

tiredoflurking wrote: post #164
danilocampos wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't care about women in tech. I've noticed. When you collect a few more life experiences, perhaps get a decade of career under your belt, you'll learn how toxic it is when monocultures form. You'll learn about the blind spots. The exclusion. The lack of productive conflict from varying ideas. And perhaps at that point you'll learn why "caring about people in tech" means caring that no people feel actively exclu…

The amount of tone-policing you've received for this comment absolutely floors me. My perception from this thread is that men can say whatever offensive thing they want about women, but as soon as someone says something that might be slightly harsh in defense, suddenly people care about the tone of the argument. Suddenly you're "attacking."

My comment really does mostly come from the perspective of 'why not try to increase the effectiveness of your communication', not policing tone.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by argumentum »

erichocean wrote: post #166

My wife applied and I was surprised by the unseriousness of the application process. If you've gone through the online YC application process, imagine you dumbed that down for a 10 year old who only had 10 minutes to complete it and only had to answer one question, along the lines of "Why is America the best country on Earth?"[0] Here's the rejection email my wife got for those that are curious: Thank you for applyin…

Occam's razor suggests they simply got a lot more applications than they anticipated.
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