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Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by dandrews » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 12:49 AM UTC

Crake wrote: post #16

namenotrequired wrote: post #3

For those who wouldn't click cause it's "Female Founders" - so far it's been just as inspiring as Startup School (even for me as a man).

I usually don't bother with links to things that are phrased in such a way as to suggest support of segregationist policies. I don't care about women in tech. I care about people in tech.

Problem is, Crake, we're doing something wrong. Three years I went to Conj, and the first year there were -zero- women attendees out of 300. Second year it was -three- attendees out of 300. Third year it was eight or nine. I don't know what Lynn and company managed to attract last year.

The people attending Conj are bright, well-spoken, polite. I didn't meet a jerk in three years, a crowd I was proud to be seen with. But WHERE WERE THE WOMEN? What is going on here?

We must do something. I don't know what. I'll agree with you that exclusionary events are counterproductive, but I can't see the harm in recognizing successful women who can show us how it's done.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by onmydesk » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 12:51 AM UTC

When is the blue eyed founders conference? The left handed? Its an interesting watch for sure but what the hell. Pandering to a fashionable discrimination. When we all get over this as a society we'll be shaking our heads at it.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by JensenDied » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 12:53 AM UTC

Dewie wrote: post #40

nilved wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Awesome! That's why you support women in tech and the female founder thought, right? Because that's how _people_ get in to tech?

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Mu.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by Rajiv_N » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 12:58 AM UTC

Diane Greene is amazing! I think I can listen to her speak all day long

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by baddox » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 1:00 AM UTC

dandrews wrote: post #41

Crake wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually don't bother with links to things that are phrased in such a way as to suggest support of segregationist policies. I don't care about women in tech. I care about people in tech.

Problem is, Crake, we're doing something wrong . Three years I went to Conj, and the first year there were -zero- women attendees out of 300. Second year it was -three- attendees out of 300. Third year it was eight or nine. I don't know what Lynn and company managed to attract last year. The people attending Conj are bright, well-spoken, polite. I didn't meet a jerk in three years, a crowd I was proud to be seen with…

> Problem is, Crake, we're doing something wrong.

And perhaps the support of segregationist policies is the thing we're doing wrong.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by onmydesk » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 1:03 AM UTC

staticelf wrote: post #29

I dislike the fact that females get a lot more attention because of their gender. If you want true equality you've to start treating everybody as equals and giving extra space for some just doesn't cut it. I see this all the time in my country (I don't know if this is the case here) but females get a lot more attention in basically all areas of society and I don't think much good can come from that. Well, I guess I'm…

Fundamentally its irrational. And I note comments like this are voted down without any rational response to the perfectly valid points made. I dislike sexism and am alarmed at its acceptance.

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by danilocampos » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 1:04 AM UTC

baddox wrote: post #45

dandrews wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is, Crake, we're doing something wrong . Three years I went to Conj, and the first year there were -zero- women attendees out of 300. Second year it was -three- attendees out of 300. Third year it was eight or nine. I don't know what Lynn and company managed to attract last year. The people attending Conj are bright, well-spoken, polite. I didn't meet a jerk in three years, a crowd I was proud to be seen with…

> Problem is, Crake, we're doing something wrong . And perhaps the support of segregationist policies is the thing we're doing wrong.

Okay.

Let's hear your proposal for addressing the already segregationist technology industry.

Let's hear your proposal for elevating female/non-white founder percentages out of the single digits.

What've you got?

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by dandrews » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 1:08 AM UTC

staticelf wrote: post #29

I dislike the fact that females get a lot more attention because of their gender. If you want true equality you've to start treating everybody as equals and giving extra space for some just doesn't cut it. I see this all the time in my country (I don't know if this is the case here) but females get a lot more attention in basically all areas of society and I don't think much good can come from that. Well, I guess I'm…

staticelf, most of us here want that "true equality" that you refer to. But the unassailable fact of the matter is that we don't have it today.

Look around you: assuming you're in IT, unless you work in a truly remarkable place men considerably outnumber women. We (and I mean the egalitarian "we") have to do something about that.

I'd welcome your suggestion. But "start treating everybody as equals" is a goal, and not very prescriptive. How do we get from point A to point B?

(I upvoted you because your discourse is reasoned and polite.)

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 1:09 AM UTC

onmydesk wrote: post #46

staticelf wrote: post #29

I dislike the fact that females get a lot more attention because of their gender. If you want true equality you've to start treating everybody as equals and giving extra space for some just doesn't cut it. I see this all the time in my country (I don't know if this is the case here) but females get a lot more attention in basically all areas of society and I don't think much good can come from that. Well, I guess I'm…

Fundamentally its irrational. And I note comments like this are voted down without any rational response to the perfectly valid points made. I dislike sexism and am alarmed at its acceptance.

[deleted]

Re: Y Combinator Female Founders Conference LiveStream

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Post by danilocampos » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 1:11 AM UTC

Crake wrote: post #16

namenotrequired wrote: post #3

For those who wouldn't click cause it's "Female Founders" - so far it's been just as inspiring as Startup School (even for me as a man).

I usually don't bother with links to things that are phrased in such a way as to suggest support of segregationist policies. I don't care about women in tech. I care about people in tech.

> I don't care about women in tech.

I've noticed.

When you collect a few more life experiences, perhaps get a decade of career under your belt, you'll learn how toxic it is when monocultures form. You'll learn about the blind spots. The exclusion. The lack of productive conflict from varying ideas.

And perhaps at that point you'll learn why "caring about people in tech" means caring that no people feel actively excluded from its prosperity.

Until then, your callousness makes you emphatically the sort of dime-a-dozen, utterly common, entirely unoriginal personalities that make me want to walk out of this industry and lock the door behind me forever.

Good luck on your journey.