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Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by dTal » Fri, Feb 28, 2014, 10:14 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #140

rjzzleep wrote: post #134

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uh ok, i tell you what. i grew up in germany, i'm highly educated, i speak fluent german without accent(you know like most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent). in fact i speak 4 languages fluent+ a little of a couple others. everyone that had to deal with me on a personal level tried to hire me at some point. when i came back from the states i met a buttload of people that were telling m…

In my experience, most people that were born in the U.S. speak English with an atrocious accent.

Goodness me! It was humor guys, and self-deprecating humor at that! I'm American. You know, inability to laugh at ourselves is another American stereotype...

"most people that were born in the us, speak english without an accent" - how can you seriously not giggle at this statement, when the "American accent" is so iconic?

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by Pitarou » Sat, Mar 01, 2014, 2:16 PM UTC

htns wrote: post #169

Pitarou wrote: post #168

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No. It's not that simple. Of course, money can solve a lot of problems, but if she openly defies and (in their eyes) dishonours her family, she can expect retaliation. And they will use the people she loves and cares about the most to get at her.

She is fully expecting to dishonor her family in the near future, just not before they have paid for her college.

And not before she's got her mom safely out of Pakistan.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by strictfp » Sun, Mar 02, 2014, 9:08 AM UTC

aestra wrote: post #78

strictfp wrote: post #44

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Even though this advice isn't something she might consider in her current situation, it might be good for her to hear it. After all, she's basically a hostage in this situation, and hearing people confirm this might prevent her from getting stuck in a "Stockholm syndrome". And frankly, I think her best move in this situation would be to say no and find refuge for herself. Yes, family members might get seriously injur…

Seriously? You know she can die for doing this? Honor killings are real for women not obeying her family, especially in matters of sex and marriage. Sandeela Kanwal - killed by her parents for trying to leave her arranged marriage. Noor Almaleki - murdered by her parents for (among other things) shunning arranged marriage. The other things were trying to be too western, like wanting to have the privilege of driving a…

No, I have no idea what it's like. But I can imagine that it's quite similar to being held hostage. Running away as a hostage might also get you shot. But that doesn't mean you should stay with your oppressors.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by commentorY » Tue, Mar 04, 2014, 7:33 PM UTC

aestra wrote: post #78

strictfp wrote: post #44

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Even though this advice isn't something she might consider in her current situation, it might be good for her to hear it. After all, she's basically a hostage in this situation, and hearing people confirm this might prevent her from getting stuck in a "Stockholm syndrome". And frankly, I think her best move in this situation would be to say no and find refuge for herself. Yes, family members might get seriously injur…

Seriously? You know she can die for doing this? Honor killings are real for women not obeying her family, especially in matters of sex and marriage. Sandeela Kanwal - killed by her parents for trying to leave her arranged marriage. Noor Almaleki - murdered by her parents for (among other things) shunning arranged marriage. The other things were trying to be too western, like wanting to have the privilege of driving a…

In the article she said that she was worried that even if she escaped her mother or sister could be hurt. While the local law enforcement should protect her if her husband is abusive, there is nothing they can do about threats in a foreign land.