Too bad there isn't a market for modern vehicles with minimalist, open-source embedded systems. That would be cool.
Thieves Break Into Cars Using Mysterious 'Black Box'
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#12Gee, you guize! Oh noes, scarey people is doing bad, bad tings, and let's all worry now! Police no can help! Meesuh gonna die now??? Is there a particular reason why the 5 o'clock news is dumbed down to non-verbal pre-schooler degrees of retardation? I mean this is like Barney The Purple Dinosaur "2 + 2 is 4" level informative. "...AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS!" Bullshit. That is a fucking lie. What's the next segment…
> Is there a particular reason why the 5 o'clock news is dumbed down to non-verbal pre-schooler degrees of retardation?
Yes, getting eyeballs and selling ads. The simple model of appeals with high emotional resonance and low rational content that generates among a large segment of the population a feeling that the world is a scary, scary place and if they don't keep tabs on the latest danger by watching the news it will be even more dangerous for them is a very effective way of doing that.
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#13I suspect it will be necessary soon to start putting a keypad on the keyfob or door handle to ender a pin code in order to unlock the door.
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#14This is nothing new. I saw a similar report with a different video over a year ago (couldn't find the link).
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#15Gee, you guize! Oh noes, scarey people is doing bad, bad tings, and let's all worry now! Police no can help! Meesuh gonna die now??? Is there a particular reason why the 5 o'clock news is dumbed down to non-verbal pre-schooler degrees of retardation? I mean this is like Barney The Purple Dinosaur "2 + 2 is 4" level informative. "...AND NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS!" Bullshit. That is a fucking lie. What's the next segment…
> Is there a particular reason why the 5 o'clock news is dumbed down to non-verbal pre-schooler degrees of retardation? Yes, getting eyeballs and selling ads. The simple model of appeals with high emotional resonance and low rational content that generates among a large segment of the population a feeling that the world is a scary, scary place and if they don't keep tabs on the latest danger by watching the news it w…
Often, there's simply no benefit to putting more than the minimum amount of effort into a story. Staff may be untrained, overworked, underpaid, crunched for time or (apparently in this case) just serving up whatever shit the mothership gives them to fill some space.
Just look at how many times that particular 'story' mentions 'CNN reported' and 'CNN says.' And the whole thing is like ten sentences. I bet someone didn't even have to put down their coffee for this one.
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#16I'm assuming automakers don't publish their specs for keyless entry for review? I'm sure they are relatively insecure, and they almost surely have backdoor codes known to thousands of individuals in each company and likely to several law enforcement agencies as well. Such info will inevitably be leaked. I'm honestly surprised we haven't already seen widespread hacking of keyless entry. Now that many cars do all their…
It's RF so all you would need is a little know how and a spectrum analyzer...
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#17Read somewhere that this is possible by re-playing bluetooth (or similar) keyless entry signals. The suspect doesn't actually know what car he or she is going to unlock. So they brute force walk by any car that opens and drive off.
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#18I'm assuming automakers don't publish their specs for keyless entry for review? I'm sure they are relatively insecure, and they almost surely have backdoor codes known to thousands of individuals in each company and likely to several law enforcement agencies as well. Such info will inevitably be leaked. I'm honestly surprised we haven't already seen widespread hacking of keyless entry. Now that many cars do all their…
It's RF so all you would need is a little know how and a spectrum analyzer...
They could use an interactive zero knowledge proof, or some such crypto.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's RF so all you would need is a little know how and a spectrum analyzer...
They could use an interactive zero knowledge proof, or some such crypto.
They could, but most people only test that something works, not that it doesn't work ("goto fail"), and so probably didn't do that.
"UNLOCK" "OK"
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#20Too bad there isn't a market for modern vehicles with minimalist, open-source embedded systems. That would be cool.
Except when you have to download security updates before you drive off, and it leaves you bricked with dependency conflicts.