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Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

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Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

I think this is more directed at C# users. The focus of TS is to let tooling (specifically Visual Studio) do the same stuff it does in C#. They tried and failed to make VS good for JS.

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

#4

Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

My only gripe - VS is way too expensive, for my pocket at least. And you need VS to program in TS, Intellisense is that good. Sure, you can go with Express edition but then you don't have node.js extension - which kinda make the whole endeavour bit pointless (again, for me at least).

Wish they would bring prices to the level of, for example, those of Jetbrains, or made node.js extension working with Express.

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

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post #3

Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

I think this is more directed at C# users. The focus of TS is to let tooling (specifically Visual Studio) do the same stuff it does in C#. They tried and failed to make VS good for JS.

Well, even if it's directed at C# by Microsoft, it's used by a lot of people that are not into Visual Studio or Microsoft. TypeScript is a lot more than "IDE tooling", even though proper intellisense makes it a lot of nicer to develop.

It's not like Microsoft somehow failed to make VS good for JS, it's theoretically impossible to make VS do to JS what TS can do for any IDE.

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

#6

Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

My only gripe - VS is way too expensive, for my pocket at least. And you need VS to program in TS, Intellisense is that good. Sure, you can go with Express edition but then you don't have node.js extension - which kinda make the whole endeavour bit pointless (again, for me at least). Wish they would bring prices to the level of, for example, those of Jetbrains, or made node.js extension working with Express.

You don't need VS for TS. Eclipse and WebStorm support it pretty well. I've evaluated Visual Studio, Eclipse and WebStorm, and Eclipse and WebStorm are better for TypeScript development, at least if you're using Node.js.

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

#7

Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

My only gripe - VS is way too expensive, for my pocket at least. And you need VS to program in TS, Intellisense is that good. Sure, you can go with Express edition but then you don't have node.js extension - which kinda make the whole endeavour bit pointless (again, for me at least). Wish they would bring prices to the level of, for example, those of Jetbrains, or made node.js extension working with Express.

Perhaps VS online might be worth a shot? Subscription based so at least you don't stand to loose a lot of cash http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/pricing/details/visual-stu...

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

#8

Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

My only gripe - VS is way too expensive, for my pocket at least. And you need VS to program in TS, Intellisense is that good. Sure, you can go with Express edition but then you don't have node.js extension - which kinda make the whole endeavour bit pointless (again, for me at least). Wish they would bring prices to the level of, for example, those of Jetbrains, or made node.js extension working with Express.

If you have your own startup or small company or are a student, Microsoft has several options aimed at you:

- BizSpark for startups( http://www.microsoft.com/bizspark/ )

- DreamSpark for students ( https://www.dreamspark.com/ )

and I think there are other options if you contact someone at your local Microsoft office.

I've just started using BizSpark (for a side project with 2 friends, so the "startup" term is a bit loose), and it's a great program.

It's still way too expensive, but their goal is to let you give it a try, and if your startup is doing well you won't mind paying U$ 10.000 or whatever if you're cashing millions :)

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My only gripe - VS is way too expensive, for my pocket at least. And you need VS to program in TS, Intellisense is that good. Sure, you can go with Express edition but then you don't have node.js extension - which kinda make the whole endeavour bit pointless (again, for me at least). Wish they would bring prices to the level of, for example, those of Jetbrains, or made node.js extension working with Express.

Perhaps VS online might be worth a shot? Subscription based so at least you don't stand to loose a lot of cash http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/pricing/details/visual-stu...

Thanks! Gonna give it a try, always thought online plans are only about their team management tools.

Re: TypeScript included with Visual Studio 2013 Update 2

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post #3

Microsoft has a potential winning strategy here vs. Dart. They are basically giving JS programmers no more than what they are directly asking for.

I think this is more directed at C# users. The focus of TS is to let tooling (specifically Visual Studio) do the same stuff it does in C#. They tried and failed to make VS good for JS.

I love VS for javascript. With ReSharper installed it is great. I guess maybe I answered my own question by admitting I need a JetBrains tool in there but: What tool is so great for Javascript?

I use Sublime a lot as well on my Mac, and I don't like it as well.

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