Some info here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z37zw/mt_gox_has_a... "MtGox still has at least 200k BTC" Here are the possibilities, as far as I can tell: 1) That information is inaccurate. 2) MtGox lost their private keys. 3) The private keys were kept in a bank vault, which was seized by a foreign entity like the US government at some earlier time. 4) MtGox stole the coins. The management of MtGox knows…
Ask HN: Where are the 750k Bitcoins lost by Mt. Gox?
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#13"In the blockchain". Assuming they weren't lost because someone forgot a password, all of the BTC lost / stolen in transaction malleability are traceable. Whether or not its feasible to check every transaction from Gox over the last few years and add up all the partial BTC is something I can't comment on.
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#15I have to go with the following answer: in someone's pocket.
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#16With the possibility of getting down voted into oblivion. The BTC lost/stolen are all available within blockchain/public ledger. Depending on who stole them, it would probably be distributed within multiple very smaller transaction. It my be traceable, but likely unrecoverable, because this is a feature of Bitcoin. In other words authorities and forensic enthusiasts can find the BTC but they are most likely lost at t…
I wouldn't be that pessismistic. If people manage to identify people behind the blockchains, I strongly suppose that law enforcements, depending on countries where the theift physically is, can force the thieft to give it back without any modifications to existing laws. I think we can catch him when he is going to want to laundry his bitcoins.
Re: Ask HN: Where are the 750k Bitcoins lost by Mt. Gox?
#17With the possibility of getting down voted into oblivion. The BTC lost/stolen are all available within blockchain/public ledger. Depending on who stole them, it would probably be distributed within multiple very smaller transaction. It my be traceable, but likely unrecoverable, because this is a feature of Bitcoin. In other words authorities and forensic enthusiasts can find the BTC but they are most likely lost at t…
I wouldn't be that pessismistic. If people manage to identify people behind the blockchains, I strongly suppose that law enforcements, depending on countries where the theift physically is, can force the thieft to give it back without any modifications to existing laws. I think we can catch him when he is going to want to laundry his bitcoins.
I wanted to add the possibility of law enforcement from various countries tracing the alleged perpetrators. This is actually the most worrisome scenario, because a large portion of this would be unrecoverable from the law enforcement, due to the immense confusion stemming from authorities not knowing who has jurisdiction and the laws surrounding crypto-currencies.
This might be an acceptable situation for the customers but would be bad for the customers as over 6% of BTC would be almost permanently removed from circulation.
Re: Ask HN: Where are the 750k Bitcoins lost by Mt. Gox?
#18With the possibility of getting down voted into oblivion. The BTC lost/stolen are all available within blockchain/public ledger. Depending on who stole them, it would probably be distributed within multiple very smaller transaction. It my be traceable, but likely unrecoverable, because this is a feature of Bitcoin. In other words authorities and forensic enthusiasts can find the BTC but they are most likely lost at t…
I wouldn't be that pessismistic. If people manage to identify people behind the blockchains, I strongly suppose that law enforcements, depending on countries where the theift physically is, can force the thieft to give it back without any modifications to existing laws. I think we can catch him when he is going to want to laundry his bitcoins.
and hasn't this happened already? someone did steal coins and was tracked for a while. how did that work out?
Re: Ask HN: Where are the 750k Bitcoins lost by Mt. Gox?
#19With the possibility of getting down voted into oblivion. The BTC lost/stolen are all available within blockchain/public ledger. Depending on who stole them, it would probably be distributed within multiple very smaller transaction. It my be traceable, but likely unrecoverable, because this is a feature of Bitcoin. In other words authorities and forensic enthusiasts can find the BTC but they are most likely lost at t…
I wouldn't be that pessismistic. If people manage to identify people behind the blockchains, I strongly suppose that law enforcements, depending on countries where the theift physically is, can force the thieft to give it back without any modifications to existing laws. I think we can catch him when he is going to want to laundry his bitcoins.