GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#1

Post by boskom » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 9:01 AM UTC

GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released
gnu.org

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#2

Post by mechanical_fish » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 12:01 PM UTC

Hmm... from the News on the new release:

Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above.

A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support".

And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009:

http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th...

Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from source. That will require a Great Package Hunt in the short term, but once you've got emacs set up you've really got emacs set up. It's not like it changes every weekend.

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#3

Post by mahmud » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 12:24 PM UTC

mechanical_fish wrote: post #2

Hmm... from the News on the new release: Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above. A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support". And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th... Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from s…

Aquamacs mate.

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#4

Post by travisjeffery » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 12:45 PM UTC

mahmud wrote: post #3

mechanical_fish wrote: post #2

Hmm... from the News on the new release: Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above. A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support". And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th... Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from s…

Aquamacs mate.

If you've actually ever used Emacs before don't use Aquamacs, or else you're going to end up reconfiguring everything all over again because the Aquamacs developers don't seem to like to stick the standards and conventions.

Random things are wonky and way out of place. Like their variation of how buffers and frames work is ridiculous.

Build the Nextstep version, Emacs.app and things will actually work the way they're supposed to without having to reconfigure everything again.

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#5

Post by jimm » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 12:54 PM UTC

How to get the command key back as the meta key on Mac OS X: (setq ns-command-modifier 'meta)

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#6

Post by jrockway » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 12:55 PM UTC

travisjeffery wrote: post #4

mahmud wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aquamacs mate.

If you've actually ever used Emacs before don't use Aquamacs, or else you're going to end up reconfiguring everything all over again because the Aquamacs developers don't seem to like to stick the standards and conventions. Random things are wonky and way out of place. Like their variation of how buffers and frames work is ridiculous. Build the Nextstep version, Emacs.app and things will actually work the way they're…

I noticed this back when I used OS X. Part of the reason I switched from OS X back to Linux was that Emacs never worked right on OS X.

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#7

Post by sneakums » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 1:00 PM UTC

mechanical_fish wrote: post #2

Hmm... from the News on the new release: Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above. A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support". And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th... Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from s…

Builds available at http://www.porkrind.org/emacs/

ETA: Information courtesy of the mighty EmacsWiki: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsForMacOS#toc2

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#8

Post by capablanca » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 1:28 PM UTC

Scrolling (redisplay?) slow for anyone else? When using a small font (ProggyTiny) it gets really slow.

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#9

Post by brodie » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 1:36 PM UTC

mechanical_fish wrote: post #2

Hmm... from the News on the new release: Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above. A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support". And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th... Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from s…

Here's a MacPorts Portfile for 23, if you're into that sort of thing: http://paste.lisp.org/+1T5E

Re: GNU Emacs 23.1 has been released

#10

Post by rbanffy » Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 1:41 PM UTC

mechanical_fish wrote: post #2

Hmm... from the News on the new release: Mac OS X is no longer supported via Carbon. Use the NeXTSTEP port, described above. A NeXTSTEP port, a.k.a. "Cocoa support". And, meanwhile, the Carbon Emacs guy reports that he doesn't plan to release an Emacs 23 version of Carbon Emacs in 2009: http://groups.google.com/group/carbon-emacs/browse_thread/th... Perhaps the time has finally come to try rolling my own emacs from s…

Isn't Carbon kind of OS9 legacy support? Does it makes sense to still have a Carbon port? Why?