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Re: Atom

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Post by groovy2shoes »

bruceboughton wrote: post #464
bowlofpetunias wrote: post #450

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It's interesting that people keep using the word "better" when it comes to new editors/languages/frameworks/etc, yet as an industry we have very little evidence to proof it. I've been doing this programming thing since the 80's, and the only thing I've seen that has really made software development better have been better practices. Maybe we should first review our definition of "better" before we label something wit…

Nonsense, you didn't even have CVS in the 80's.

Maybe not, but I'd take pass-the-floppy over AccuRev or Perforce any day.

Yeah, git and its kin are really nice, but the expensive version control systems I've been required to use in enterprise settings are awful. So awful that many people actually just email source files back and forth so they don't have to deal with it.

So, version control has made things better in some areas. But enterprise version control feels more like a step back to me. AccuRev has literally stolen entire mornings from me because what should have been a simple two-minute check-in took almost 3 hours to complete and was interactive! Yay!

Re: Atom

#622

Post by bruceboughton »

groovy2shoes wrote: post #621
bruceboughton wrote: post #464

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Nonsense, you didn't even have CVS in the 80's.

Maybe not, but I'd take pass-the-floppy over AccuRev or Perforce any day. Yeah, git and its kin are really nice, but the expensive version control systems I've been required to use in enterprise settings are awful. So awful that many people actually just email source files back and forth so they don't have to deal with it. So, version control has made things better in some areas. But enterprise version control feels…

That's a shame. All the enterprise places I've worked so far have used Subversion (whether officially or not).

Re: Atom

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Post by doraneko_san »

thedaniel wrote: post #44
ecnahc515 wrote: post #26

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It's built on node-webkit and chromium, which technically works on Windows, OSX and Linux. Do you seriously think they would make an OSX only editor when there's already so many that work on all platforms?

The download is only available for Mac today, but we are working on the Linux and Windows builds.

Windows +1. Staring the words 'coming soon', I'm like HOW SOON IS IT!!

Re: Atom

#624

Post by anon4 »

fhars wrote: post #405
gavinpc wrote: post #377

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> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

VMS file versions solved that problem in the late 70ies. We are not learning anything from out history as a profession.

Btrfs and ZFS would have helped, too.

Re: Atom

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Post by shovel »

johw wrote: post #614
gavinpc wrote: post #377

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> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

I'm using dropbox for document backups. Just edit your files inside your dropbox folder and your documents will be versioned.

Same here. As well as Time Machine. Just in case Dropbox ever breaks.

Re: Atom

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Post by vidarh »

craigching wrote: post #551
vidarh wrote: post #492

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I don't know how long Emacs has had a GUI, but it's at least 20 years. I don't remember what the graphical capabilities of GNU Emacs are like, as I only use the command line version, but XEmacs at least also has extensive support for bitmaps graphics in buffers that far exceeds most of these "new editors".

GNU emacs can show bitmap images. I'm on the latest version 24.x and just tried it out, so I'm not sure when it was added.

It's hard to track down when it was introduced, but it looks like there was at least some bitmap support as far back as Emacs 18, which predates the XEmacs split and indicates that at least basic support may date back to 1986.

Re: Atom

#629

Post by akulbe »

akulbe wrote: post #55
mmanfrin wrote: post #32

This might make developing on chromebook viable.

THIS.

Wow. Lost karma because I'm enthusiastic about something? Neutral, I'd understand... but downvotes? Really? I've seen even more plain and simple comments get upvotes. You folks are a fickle bunch.

Re: Atom

#630

Post by rytis »

hoggle wrote: post #468
fhars wrote: post #405

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VMS file versions solved that problem in the late 70ies. We are not learning anything from out history as a profession.

I'm a loyal unix guy but as a millenial without much actual hands-on experience with VMS I always love to hear anecdotes like that :) The first time I read about it was in Clifford Stoll's Cuckoo's Egg where it seemed as if there was constant competition between UNIX/VMS folks over which was the more sophisticated/elegant operating system - mostly good hearted competition of a more civilized age of course ;) I vividl…

being ignorant

"Ignorance is Strength" (1984)

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