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E-mail didn't really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate?

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Re: E-mail didn't really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate?

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I don't think the premise is right. From the beginning to now, Gmail evolved quite a bit. For one, they used their analytical knowledge to prioritize emails, which I found to be very helpful. Two, they started filtering newsletters and advertisements automatically. Third, the UI got revamped quite a bit. Add to that all the basics Gmail does right (spamfiltering, tag+-syntax, …), and you see why it is hard to compete…

Emails are not tasks? I disagree. You're right that they are a communication medium but it not incompatible. From my point of view most of the time they are both.

Sometimes it is just a question of definitions. If I get an email from my mum with an ebook attached, I can regard it as a task (to add that ebook to my reader, to write back later). I'd argue that this is not the definition of a task, the writing back part alone especially not. That is just communication.

But sure, if you use emails primarily to collaborate with others, for you the emails are task thinking might very well be true.

Re: E-mail didn't really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate?

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I don't think the premise is right. From the beginning to now, Gmail evolved quite a bit. For one, they used their analytical knowledge to prioritize emails, which I found to be very helpful. Two, they started filtering newsletters and advertisements automatically. Third, the UI got revamped quite a bit. Add to that all the basics Gmail does right (spamfiltering, tag+-syntax, …), and you see why it is hard to compete…

> I don't want my emails to be directly in the hands of the NSA

Then I hope you don't send any messages in plaintext, and good luck with the headers.

Re: E-mail didn't really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate?

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I don't think the premise is right. From the beginning to now, Gmail evolved quite a bit. For one, they used their analytical knowledge to prioritize emails, which I found to be very helpful. Two, they started filtering newsletters and advertisements automatically. Third, the UI got revamped quite a bit. Add to that all the basics Gmail does right (spamfiltering, tag+-syntax, …), and you see why it is hard to compete…

> I don't want my emails to be directly in the hands of the NSA Then I hope you don't send any messages in plaintext, and good luck with the headers.

I sure try to encrypt as much as possible.

Re: E-mail didn't really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate?

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Since Gmail? What new did Gmail bring to email users exactly?

Gmail introduced conversation threading, gigabyte storage, speed, powerful search, and lots more no?

And decent spam blocking. I switched to Gmail after 10 years with Yahoo because I was fed up with 15 spams a day in the inbox.

Re: E-mail didn't really evolve since Gmail. Why is it so hard to innovate?

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I don't think the premise is right. From the beginning to now, Gmail evolved quite a bit. For one, they used their analytical knowledge to prioritize emails, which I found to be very helpful. Two, they started filtering newsletters and advertisements automatically. Third, the UI got revamped quite a bit. Add to that all the basics Gmail does right (spamfiltering, tag+-syntax, …), and you see why it is hard to compete…

I agree with you almost entirely. Although I do have one specific minor off-topic feature I'd love to have in email that I haven't seen anywhere.

I want the ability to "like" an email, and have the sender know that I "liked" it. I don't want to write "yes, I agree", or even worse, a terse response of "like" as I feel that's a waste of my time, the sender's time, an unnecessary "+1" in their inbox.

I just want a way to say "I read your email and it sounds good to me" without having to actually write anything. Just click the "heart" or whatever symbol, and the sender is notified next time they open their email client with the heart showing next to the thread. Would work out nicely for lists and group emails as well.

I suppose there are clunky workarounds that would allow such a thing dependent upon client implementation, but it's just not that significant of a thing.

As for shared inboxen for task management, I'd recommend Asana (with whom I've no affiliation, besides being a happy customer).

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