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The Diet Fix

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Re: The Diet Fix

#31
post #5

After reading some of sites' other posts I think it's just not a reliable source of information. The 'science' is hand picked to support the author's arguments. This is no different them the candida, sugar or vitamin proponents. They all have scientific explanations and plans of action.

His post about Taubes still being wrong does that http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/why-we-get-fat/ I'd like Taubes to be wrong on some points, but the author would rather argue against his misunderstanding of Taubes, which doesn't help.

Can you tell us what is his misunderstanding of Taubes? It seems pretty spot on to me.

Re: The Diet Fix

#32
It's unfortunate that we have two definitions of diet:

1. What we eat.

2. A temporary change to what we eat that will produce correspondingly temporary results.

Another thing that trips people up is the paralysis rational human beings often experience at the start of a monumental task. Changing your diet to be healthier is, for many people, such a huge undertaking that they can't get started. Like so many other things in life, the trick is to start small. Try putting one less sugar in your coffee or, every time you open a Pringles can, throw the first ten chips in the trash. If you keep doing small things one day you will laugh at how little they really were while being awed by how far you've come.

Re: The Diet Fix

#33
post #2

Sounds promising. Calories in, calories out - the rest is just noise.

That's like saying: "flying is easy, just generate more lift than the airplane weighs - the rest is just noise." No shit, but life isn't so simple. At least for me, controlling weight (now that I'm pushing 30) has been about appetite management, and I've found that keto helps a lot. Not because it changes anything magic about the calorie balance, but because to me 500 calories of steak feels like a meal but 500 calories of pasta feels like a snack.

Re: The Diet Fix

#34
post #5

After reading some of sites' other posts I think it's just not a reliable source of information. The 'science' is hand picked to support the author's arguments. This is no different them the candida, sugar or vitamin proponents. They all have scientific explanations and plans of action.

His post about Taubes still being wrong does that http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/why-we-get-fat/ I'd like Taubes to be wrong on some points, but the author would rather argue against his misunderstanding of Taubes, which doesn't help.

His argument in this post is "The laws of physics are unavoidable". That makes no sense at all! There is no logical reason to believe that calories (a thermodinamic unity) is transformed in fat in our body.

This is the same as saying that all fat should go to the feet because of Gravity and the laws of physics are unavoidable. It is pure non-sense.

Do you know how to measure calories on food? You burn it and measure the heat it generates. How this apply to our body function is a mistery to me. To anyone actually.

Taubes theory is based on hormones, which is what the medicine proved for the last century that is what regulates all kind of function in our bodies. Make much more sense, no??

Calories in - calories out muchbe relevant to a thermal plant, no to our body producing fat.

Re: The Diet Fix

#35
post #5

After reading some of sites' other posts I think it's just not a reliable source of information. The 'science' is hand picked to support the author's arguments. This is no different them the candida, sugar or vitamin proponents. They all have scientific explanations and plans of action.

Agreed, it reads like the same faddish, pseudo-science the author purports to debunk. "I tried all the diet books, and none of them worked, but finally here's one that does, because SCIENCE!"

It's the same old shopping channel and sideshow sales pitch people have peddling for hundreds of years, except it tries to play on a mark's trust for scientific authority instead of religious belief or new age mysticism, the same way some magicians pass off classic tricks as clever mentalism by exploiting people's belief in the power of modern psychology.

And the actual obesity cure it outlines is the same as every other mainstream diet: Reorient your whole life around planning, purchasing, preparing, eating and recording a weighed, calorie counted, macro-nutrient balanced diet, and try to get some more exercise as well.

Most people, particular in those groups most risk of obesity - those poor in time and money - will never be able to adopt such a strategy. Consider a single parent trying to raise three or four kids, while working a couple of jobs, and travelling everywhere via long public transport journeys. There's no way that they're going to be do all this.

Processed food is successful because it: - is cheap - tastes good - is easy to acquire - is easy to prepare

Any solution to widespread obesity needs to provide a source of healthy food that at the very least matches processed food in these regards.

Re: The Diet Fix

#36
post #2

Sounds promising. Calories in, calories out - the rest is just noise.

The forest is calories, so don't lose that.

However, the trees are macros.

Macros are important for goals. If your goal is simply "lose weight", sure, just care about calories. But if you have a more refined goal (recomp, spare muscle, lose bodyfat, athletic performance, build muscle etc), the macros are vital.

I do think people lose the forest from the trees. However, I find that people lose sight of the path through the trees just as often. Both are important.

Re: The Diet Fix

#37
"In this book we obey the laws of thermodynamics"

Repeating a comment I made below, this makes no sense at all to me!!

His argument in his post saying Taubes is wrong is "The laws of physics are unavoidable". That makes no sense at all! There is no logical reason to believe that calories (a thermodinamic unity) is transformed in fat in our body - and no science to prove it either.

This is the same as saying that all fat should go to the feet because of Gravity and the laws of physics are unavoidable. It is pure non-sense.

Do you know how to measure calories on food? You burn it and measure the heat it generates. How this apply to our body function is a mistery to me. To anyone actually.

Taubes theory is based on hormones, which is what the medicine proved for the last century that is what regulates all kind of function in our bodies. Make much more sense to think how a diet affect hormones and how it affects are body producing fat, no??

Calories in - calories out must be relevant to a thermal plant, no to our body producing fat.

Re: The Diet Fix

#38

There is claim that exercise contributing to significant weight loss is a myth. I beg to disagree, while exercise itself might not be significant contributor to weight loss, no exercise means lower metabolism and overall health. As always there is no silver bullet, you need to have a balanced lifestyle to be healthy.

Is a high metabolism necessarily healthy?

Re: The Diet Fix

#39
post #37

"In this book we obey the laws of thermodynamics" Repeating a comment I made below, this makes no sense at all to me!! His argument in his post saying Taubes is wrong is "The laws of physics are unavoidable". That makes no sense at all! There is no logical reason to believe that calories (a thermodinamic unity) is transformed in fat in our body - and no science to prove it either. This is the same as saying that all…

Come now. It's a matter of physics that you can't make stuff from nothing, and you can't do things without energy.

That's not to say that body fat is strictly dependent on caloric intake, but to certain extremes, there's no way around that fact.

Re: The Diet Fix

#40
post #37

"In this book we obey the laws of thermodynamics" Repeating a comment I made below, this makes no sense at all to me!! His argument in his post saying Taubes is wrong is "The laws of physics are unavoidable". That makes no sense at all! There is no logical reason to believe that calories (a thermodinamic unity) is transformed in fat in our body - and no science to prove it either. This is the same as saying that all…

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