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GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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I'll cite a source for you: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Not to get too far afield from the original post, or to start a religious debate where we end up calling each other Hitler, but I've got some good stuff for you: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28) "If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulte…

I think the point was that homosexuality has been taboo for a lot longer than the CIA has been around. So while they obviously have found it useful there's no reason to think they needed to work to keep it taboo for so long.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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It is no accident that socially conservative ideologies are correlated with right-wing / authoritarian politics. It is such an age-old instrument of manipulation and control that I am tempted to believe that it is innate and ingrained into our biology.

Just to be clear, there is a such thing as leftist authoritarianism, and that its effects can also be cast as a kind of social conservatism.

As a leftist off of the numberline in Seattle, I can corroborate that thought terminating groupthink is alive and well across the social spectrum.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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"Rather than collecting webcam chats in their entirety, the program saved one image every five minutes from the users' feeds, partly to comply with human rights legislation, and also to avoid overloading GCHQ's servers." Ummm, "comply with human rights legislation" ... what? Are they implying that they was a human rights watchdog involved that confirmed that their approach was "legal"? Or, is the more likely case tha…

As I'm pretty sure there is no "human rights legislation" that states that indiscriminate capturing of private video streams is bad unless you only capture an image every 5 minutes, it's likely that technical restrictions are the only reason for the intermittancy - they even say how nice it would be if they could capture everything. Oddly, the primary sources we've been shown don't mention any human rights justificat…

It reminds me of the "disclaimers" you used to see on Mp3 hosting sites back in the day

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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post #118

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But you can't use that blackmail tool without revealing that you were spying illegally. Revealing that would be worse for the blackmailer than the blackmailee.

This is why you "leak" it and find a scapegoat.

Anonymous is a loose collective that has already seen headlines in mainstream media, and it's impossible to prove that Anonymous did or did not do something. "Anonymous" takes credit for a lot of things that 4chan had no involvement in, for example.

Simply saying "the hacker collective known as Anonymous has released photos of..." and there's literally no way for the general public to dispute it. Anonymous is a pretty convenient cover for government blackmail.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Whether it's worse or not, it's violating our privacy to an extent where there is barely anything left to be exposed. I assume they do the same with Skype, Lync etc. I hate the thought of being photographed by these creepy "intelligence officers" every time I'm on a webcam. Probably it also happens when we don't use the webcam.

It's also something more tangible for non-geeks than other revelations so more likely to provoke a public reaction. "GHCQ has pics of your teenage daughter ..."

Dear lord, wait until the Daily Mail cops on to that one.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#187

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How do you propose? Political action has been ineffective so far.

Has there been any political action in the UK yet? I'm American and hadn't heard of any British politicians speaking out against GCHQ.

I'm not sure.

I know that in the USA the political action has been largely irrelevant and low profile, though it has weakly galvanized politicians who were anti-NSA before the leaks were even public knowledge.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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i wish i could chose from a wider range of laptops without camera and microphone i own an old hp like that and i love it i never need the camera and when i need to skype i just plug the headphones

I take it you're not a very big Xbox One fan, then?

is that some kind of packaging solution?

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

#189

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I'll cite a source for you: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Not to get too far afield from the original post, or to start a religious debate where we end up calling each other Hitler, but I've got some good stuff for you: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28) "If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulte…

I've always thought it was odd that people got upset about homosexuality and not about adultery. Religiously they are equally bad.

Perhaps it's because it's not really a religious issue (just using that as an excuse).

Biologically people are repelled by homosexuality and attracted to adultery. That affects their state of mind, and they look for a reason for that and catch upon religious arguments.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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post #189

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Not to get too far afield from the original post, or to start a religious debate where we end up calling each other Hitler, but I've got some good stuff for you: "But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28) "If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife—with the wife of his neighbor—both the adulterer and the adulte…

I've always thought it was odd that people got upset about homosexuality and not about adultery. Religiously they are equally bad. Perhaps it's because it's not really a religious issue (just using that as an excuse). Biologically people are repelled by homosexuality and attracted to adultery. That affects their state of mind, and they look for a reason for that and catch upon religious arguments.

> I've always thought it was odd that people got upset about homosexuality and not about adultery.

What people get upset about is a cultural variable that is not consistent across times and places. Plenty of times and places, people have gotten at least as upset about adultery as about homosexuality.

Other times and places, not so much.

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