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Post by wehadfun »

gavinpc wrote: post #377
tzs wrote: post #341

From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

I wrote software to handle this a long time ago never got off the ground www.foldertrack.com

Re: Atom

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Post by jsilence »

gavinpc wrote: post #377
tzs wrote: post #341

From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

> "thesis.docx", which of course was not backed up.

Something I find hard to belive from a woman whose husband is reading hacker news.

'thesis' and 'not backed up' are forbidden to appear in the same sentense by "the Universe(tm)". This law is enforced by _always_ deleting the contents of 'thesis'.

Re: Atom

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Post by bluedino »

freshyill wrote: post #360
crazygringo wrote: post #144

I was all ready to be skeptical and everything... but this could actually be amazing. I currently use Chocolat for code editing, which is beautifully elegant and I love it, but there are 25 little tiny things that I really wish I could fix. I file issues, but the developers rightly have their own priorities. It's closed-source, but even if it were open source, I'm not about to learn how to use XCode and Objective C a…

You are so on-the-money about Chocolat. I love it except for the things that drive me crazy. I've been trying to love Sublime Text lately. Even though I see the benefits, I see the un-Mac-like-ness of it even more.

It's a benefit if your team uses a mix of Mac/Linux/Windows.

Re: Atom

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Post by bluedino »

enscr wrote: post #404
pyoung wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like sublime, but my primary computer has an ARM processor and there is no sublime port. The sublime developers have stated that they don't have the bandwidth to handle an ARM port, and that's fair. But I find it difficult to justify paying for a license, when I can only use the editor ~25% of the time. An editor that is sublime-like and works everywhere would be awesome. I can't tell if atom has this, but a hosted…

'Primary computer is ARM' - and you are a developer? I'm genuinely curious about your setup & work.

Chromebook?

Re: Atom

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Post by wtbob »

jvm wrote: post #401
gavinpc wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

Vim persistent undo solves this problem: http://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/undo.html#undo-persist... ...I'm sure Word will catch up eventually.

Emacs autobackups (which are on by default) would have also helped here.

Re: Atom

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Post by theonewolf »

gavinpc wrote: post #377
tzs wrote: post #341

From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

You'd need something like ElephantFS whose presmise was precisely this. Modern file systems still don't protect user's data the way they should.

http://shiftleft.com/mirrors/www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Alistai...

Why even give users control of the data? No, that should rest squarely with the file system and ait should never delete things unless it is running out of space.

Re: Atom

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Post by joeevans1000 »

Atom is a cargo cult.

Atom is eventually a dead end. They are paying lip service to eventually partially opensourcing it.

It is the opposite direction of the magic of git, which enables easy sharing and collaboration.

Beware the promise of later opensourcing of projects. Without an early commitment, the developers of atom will invariably include proprietary software to ease development which will preclude later opensourcing.

You are better off taking the hard road and investing your time in tools that are not cargo cults.

Re: Atom

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Post by dudleyf »

fhars wrote: post #405
gavinpc wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

VMS file versions solved that problem in the late 70ies. We are not learning anything from out history as a profession.

I wouldn't say "solved", as it's still pretty easy to accidentally overwrite old versions, but it was a step in the right direction. VMS is full of good ideas that never went anywhere.

Re: Atom

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Post by xentronium »

Goopplesoft wrote: post #335
sheetjs wrote: post #300

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Can you build a fully functional version of Atom just from those repos? To compare, Apple releases source code for some components, but they definitely don't distribute "/System/Library/Extensions/Dont Steal Mac OS X.kext".

I thought that file was a joke until I checked it and it actually exists. For those (like me) wondering what it does: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93Intel_architectur...

Oh my, "DSMOS has arrived" line (and subsequent freeze) is gonna haunt me for years.
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