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How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

yason wrote: post #3

The reason why this was asked is baffling to me. If you don't want to go, then do not go . I assume the AP was an adult. Adults don't need to resort to tricks like trying to get rejected: adults can just reject the invite themselves.

Let's assume that the writer is in an arranged marriage that she didn't consent to (except perhaps under some duress). There have certainly been "honour killings" in the UK and I doubt that other countries have solved that problem completely. If she runs then her life may be on the line.

Under such a scenario the refusal of entry would appear to be something she can't control; plausible deniability is there at least. Thus she could avoid staying without appearing to have been disobedient, instead appearing to have been subject to the authority of the immigration control.

Now the line about having relatives at the airport makes me think this is probably a hypothetical.

How would things pan out if she simply hands herself over to the immigration officers and says that she's there under duress, that her husband is illegally resident and that he intends for her to unlawfully remain in the USA against her will? Presumably entry with intent to stay beyond the limits of one's authorisation is unlawful and would normally meet with deporting?

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by Fuxy »

levosmetalo wrote: post #13
Fuxy wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people let themselves be force into things. I find it quite sad that they lack the strength to just say no. Edit: Peer pressure is a bitch especially when it's from your own family but don't let yourself be manipulated by it. Edit2: Some people have pointed out that it's not easy and in certain cultures be enough to kill a person. Now it's amazing that this in this day and age that is acceptable but i guess you…

It's not only about personal strength, no one is strong enough to change deep cultural heritage and go alone against 1000 year long culture in which woman has no say. From the comments, it's obvious it's a forced marriage and that the OP couldn't do anything about it. It's not about her husbands family, it's also her family that first "sold" or forced her to marry, and then they want her to live with that guy. Who kn…

Why do you assume that? Just because she's from Pakistan?

Regardless my culture isn't that rosy either I just choose to reject it and was lucky that my family didn't really care.

Regardless if you're life is in danger that's the equivalent of slavery and their not your family anymore their your masters.

If you're OK with living that kind of life fine and just give up and go to the US otherwise you need to disappear and break contact with everybody you ever met.

Either fight or give up it can't be both.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by chunky1994 »

yason wrote: post #3

The reason why this was asked is baffling to me. If you don't want to go, then do not go . I assume the AP was an adult. Adults don't need to resort to tricks like trying to get rejected: adults can just reject the invite themselves.

I find it quite baffling too. It seems that a majority of people trapped in these situations lack the strength to reject them and make decisions for themselves, rather than blindly follow cultural obligations.

Since the OP lives in Spain and is a Spanish resident, it's a rather reasonable guess that she's managed to to mitigate her circumstance to one that's manageable (by putting distance between her family and herself), so kudos to her, and yet she still struggles with a rejection of the invite which is quite sad.

Disclaimer: I'm a (semi?) immigrant who's lived in India for most of his life (before coming to Canada, which was heavily dissuaded by a lot of my maternal family) so I have a sense of what it's like to reject the cultural oppression that the OP seems to face.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by aurumpotest »

Fuxy wrote: post #6

This can be solved with just the following: "Honey I love you but i can go through that ordeal i had last time again. I love my life here and i don't want to go we're going to have to find another way." If you can't be straight with your husband you might as well divorce now it's not going to get easier.

As she said on stackexchange, she was forced to marry her husband, who is 15 years older than she is, by her family. So I'd guess it's not as simple as that.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by JonnieCache »

yason wrote: post #3

The reason why this was asked is baffling to me. If you don't want to go, then do not go . I assume the AP was an adult. Adults don't need to resort to tricks like trying to get rejected: adults can just reject the invite themselves.

The issue isn't that refusal would shame her, it's that refusal would shame her family, and her husband and his family. They then have to save face somehow. That's when the problems start.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by sergiotapia »

Wow what trash suggestions that woman is getting. "Just report him."

What the fuck SE community? Just ruin the lives of more than one family living in the states just because this girl is too chicken to just say no - from thousands of miles away no less.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by drrotmos »

tarekmoz wrote: post #25

I think this will work: - "What's the purpose of your visit?" - "I will be looking for a job in the U.S." - "But you have a visitor's VISA here" - "Oh.. mmm.. but I am coming here to work" - "I am sorry this is not going to work out"

Or, rather than lying to the border agent (which I believe is a crime in the US, isn't it?), she could simply tell the truth: that she's visiting her husband and that she'll most likely be coerced to overstay her visa.

That should get her entry denied too.

Re: How to intentionally get denied entry into the United States?

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Post by rockdoe »

tarekmoz wrote: post #25

I think this will work: - "What's the purpose of your visit?" - "I will be looking for a job in the U.S." - "But you have a visitor's VISA here" - "Oh.. mmm.. but I am coming here to work" - "I am sorry this is not going to work out"

This seems a quite sane and simple answer.
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