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Getting a PhD in Norway is nearly free--even if you're not a citizen

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Re: Getting a PhD in Norway is nearly free--even if you're not a citizen

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university is free in most european countries

Not in Italy nor the Netherlands.

Well in the Netherlands it's 1800 euros a year for Dutch students, so that's not free but still very inexpensive.

(note that it's significantly more expensive for foreign students though)

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I didn't know that people were paying to do a PhD anywhere on earth. In France I'm fairly sure it is even forbidden to do a PhD without getting paid (if you don't you have to justify that you have incomes by other means or something to be able to register as a PhD student).

> I didn't know that people were paying to do a PhD anywhere on earth. Some universities ask for tuition fee.

Right but that's usually very low, isn't it? I mean if it's approximately a tenth of what you get paid by month and you have to pay it only once per year (which is the case for France), it doesn't really count as paying to do a PhD.

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I didn't know that people were paying to do a PhD anywhere on earth. In France I'm fairly sure it is even forbidden to do a PhD without getting paid (if you don't you have to justify that you have incomes by other means or something to be able to register as a PhD student).

There is a cultural difference in whether PhD studies are seen as an add-on education after normal university studies, or if it is an employment as a teacher+researcher.

In Sweden it's the latter, so students are employed as PhD students and get a salary (though usually not very competitive compared to what you would make if working elsewhere).

The fact that the PhD students spend a lot of time teaching and not only educating themselves and working towards their thesis is what makes take around 5 years, rather than, say 3 years.

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post #7

I didn't know that people were paying to do a PhD anywhere on earth. In France I'm fairly sure it is even forbidden to do a PhD without getting paid (if you don't you have to justify that you have incomes by other means or something to be able to register as a PhD student).

I know of some people that paid for their PhD (UK) only to be "recommended" to not continue and leaving with an MPhil.

Re: Getting a PhD in Norway is nearly free--even if you're not a citizen

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The title is a bit misleading. While it is true that Norwegian PhD students don't have to pay tuition, they're also salaried employees of the university. My PhD position pays at the lower end of what an engineer can expect to be paid in the public sector (and certainly lower than private sector), but it's still more than enough to live comfortably off: my salary is about 400k NOK (~66k USD, according to Google).

Re: Getting a PhD in Norway is nearly free--even if you're not a citizen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite right - in Scotland, it's actually free for all EU students EXCEPT for English, Welsh, and Northern Irish students. And as mentioned above, it's free in the sense that students don't pay, but it's all subsidised by SAAS organisation. (nothing in life is "free", right?)

Thanks - I didn't know about that. Seems rather unfair to the rest of the UK then....

The explanation given to me was: it is possible to discriminate between students from different parts of an individual member state but not to discriminate against those from other parts of the EU.

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university is free in most european countries

University (degree level) cost != PhD cost

In the UK, in the sciences, a PhD place comes with funding from a research council. An institute gets funding for places, which they award.

For arts subjects (I believe), an application by the student for a particular project is made to a funding body. It is possible, however, to fund yourself if you cannot get funding. I know a very dedicated person who did this, funding with part time work. He's now a lecturer in a good university in the UK.

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PhDs in the US are paid to teach and often receive grants to do research.

If you are getting a PhD in the US, and you aren't getting paid for it, then you shouldn't be in that program.

Technically my program charges tuition, but everyone gets a paycheck every month, and the department pays itself your tuition fees. I just owe the school $20 a semester for "student fees".

Re: Getting a PhD in Norway is nearly free--even if you're not a citizen

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not in Italy nor the Netherlands.

Well in the Netherlands it's 1800 euros a year for Dutch students, so that's not free but still very inexpensive. (note that it's significantly more expensive for foreign students though)

Currently you do not have to pay a dime to do a PhD in the Netherlands. In fact, you are almost surely an employee of the university (not a "student") and get a salary of 2300+ EUR (gross) a month.

The 1.8k EUR applies to MA/MSc/BA. If part of the requirement to do a PhD is a to do a MSc degree and the programme is joint you might get a waver from the university for that 1.8k EUR. Also, most Dutch get that money back through the government stipend programme that "lends" people about 250EUR a month and gives them free travel across the whole country. At today's prices this package is worth 4000+ EUR. You only have to pay back that loan if you do not graduate in time (=+1 year of what is the duration of the programme), if you do graduate the loan is considered paid. Foreign students can get on this action by working one day a week, somewhere (incl. TA/RA/etc.). And then there are also various subsidies that students often qualify for. It is not unheard of to see a student in the Netherlands sporting 10k+ EUR income by working one day a week.

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