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Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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I don't live in Sf but its city government sure sounds dysfunctional, more so than most cities at least.

SF is the NIMBY capital of America for a reason. Loads of people who can't seem to understand why housing prices keep rising while they simultaneously ensure that no new housing can be built.

For ESL:

NIMBY Not In My Back Yard; someone who opposes anything built right by where they live. NIMBYs cause a lot of things to not get done.

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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If you want to look at even more dysfunction turn your attention to pondering why lovely Seattle was overlooked and was even cut off of Google's map (okay that was most likely just scaling). Gigabit Squared seems like it was destined to fail the second it was announced, and where are they now? We have all that fiber already in place and no one to use it. Could Seattle not sell it to Google? Some of kind of partnershi…

Seattle isn't too bad off. It has CondoInternet (the thing I miss the most since moving to the Bay Area):

http://www.condointernet.net/

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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If you want to look at even more dysfunction turn your attention to pondering why lovely Seattle was overlooked and was even cut off of Google's map (okay that was most likely just scaling). Gigabit Squared seems like it was destined to fail the second it was announced, and where are they now? We have all that fiber already in place and no one to use it. Could Seattle not sell it to Google? Some of kind of partnershi…

Seattle isn't too bad off. It has CondoInternet (the thing I miss the most since moving to the Bay Area): http://www.condointernet.net/

You mean that service that's only available in a few very dense high-rises around the city? Doesn't really help the vast majority of people living in the Seattle area. Still holding out hope for Google Fiber, or, really, anyone but Comcast.

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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If you want to look at even more dysfunction turn your attention to pondering why lovely Seattle was overlooked and was even cut off of Google's map (okay that was most likely just scaling). Gigabit Squared seems like it was destined to fail the second it was announced, and where are they now? We have all that fiber already in place and no one to use it. Could Seattle not sell it to Google? Some of kind of partnershi…

Seattle isn't too bad off. It has CondoInternet (the thing I miss the most since moving to the Bay Area): http://www.condointernet.net/

the equivalent in the Bay Area is WebPass.

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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post #8

I don't live in Sf but its city government sure sounds dysfunctional, more so than most cities at least.

SF is the NIMBY capital of America for a reason. Loads of people who can't seem to understand why housing prices keep rising while they simultaneously ensure that no new housing can be built.

The FIOS (FTC) role out was objected to in certain posh parts of London because the residents objected to "the ugly green cabinets"

Apparently the second assistant nanny complained that it was hard to maneuver the giant buggy/prams around :-)

BT said ok no FTC for you then and went off and did other less precious areas

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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Friends of mine in SF tell me of an existing alternative, though availability varies by neighborhood and building: Monkeybrains is a wireless ISP which offers service from 1 Mbps to 10 Gbps, with 100+ Mbps not being unheard of.

Coverage is mostly in the eastern / hipster side of the City: North Beach, downtown, the Haight, Noe, to Bayview. So Sunsetters and Richmondites are SOL. Reports I've heard are that service is fast, reliable, and inexpensive ($35/mo).

https://www.monkeybrains.net/

https://www.monkeybrains.net/wireless.html (coverage map)

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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I was born in SF and have lived here most of my adult life. Our city government needs to be thrown away, it really is that bad.

That said, Google should never be allowed to run a public network for the city. Its like handing the NSA the keys to the kingdom.

Get the city to greenlight a company that actually cares about this stuff (http://www.sonic.net) and I'll be much happier.

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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Friends of mine in SF tell me of an existing alternative, though availability varies by neighborhood and building: Monkeybrains is a wireless ISP which offers service from 1 Mbps to 10 Gbps, with 100+ Mbps not being unheard of. Coverage is mostly in the eastern / hipster side of the City: North Beach, downtown, the Haight, Noe, to Bayview. So Sunsetters and Richmondites are SOL. Reports I've heard are that service is…

If they offer up to 10Gbps, then why are you making 100+ Mbps seem like a big deal?

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seattle isn't too bad off. It has CondoInternet (the thing I miss the most since moving to the Bay Area): http://www.condointernet.net/

the equivalent in the Bay Area is WebPass.

And it's pretty great, if you can get it.

Re: Google won’t bring Fiber to San Francisco

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Contrast SF's dysfunction with Houston, one of the conservatives' model cities. Houston's streets are clean, public parks seem to have the quality one would associate with private ones, there's no graffiti or homeless folks in the streets.

The business-friendly environment means that there is constant development and affordable housing prices. You can actually own a huge and beautiful house in a gorgeous and safe neighborhood for under $300k.

Imagine that.

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