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Re: Atom

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Vim is actualy pretty easy to use, the learning process is not hard at all you could just go through the vim tutorial that comes with and you will in good shape in no time.

I'm sure it's not terrible to use, but I'm not sure it's worth it for a caveman like me to put time into learning it. Sublime Text and Brackets already work very efficiently and allow me to focus on getting things done. Of course, PHP people probably said the same thing when Rails came out. The difference is that current GUI editors are already very advanced. I'm skeptical that I would get any efficiency boost from v…

You would, but i am agree with you is not for everyone.

Re: Atom

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I've been playing with it for a few minutes now, and it's definitely the case that it's easier to tweak. Not because of the underlying language, but because they expose so much of what's available through a GUI. I'm blown away by how cool this is. I'm just really hoping for good Vim keybindings and I will pay good money for this once it's out of beta.

You've been playing with it? How did you get your hands on a copy?

I signed up for an invite less than 1 min after I saw the first mention of it on twitter (https://twitter.com/defunkt/status/438789450147979264) and received the invite maybe 15 minutes or so after that.

I was given 3 invites, I gave away 2 but I'll give the third to the first person to email me. (EDIT: gave away the last one)

Doesn't seem like they're keeping too tight of a lid on it, but I guess we'll see. It seems like it can be freely passed around; I think they're just trying to gauge interest since it won't be free after the beta period.

Re: Atom

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Light Table is a great project, but it's all in closurescript -.- This is a big obstacle to people wanting to edit/customize/write their own plugins

It's really sad that learning a new language is considered "a big obstacle." An average programmer should be able to pick up nearly any new computing language quite easily.

Depends, is not like some who have code in a Imperative, OOP paradigm, is gonna learn a functional language in no time.

Re: Atom

#155

Can I use it online? That would be the killer feature for me, being able to code on anyone's computer in a second. Currently it's basically the only thing stopping me from being able to pick up anyone's computer and use it as I use my own.

Nitrous.io is pretty decent...

Re: Atom

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As the designer who worked on the main interface for Sublime Text 2, it does irk me that it looks so similar. They had carte blanche to create a wonderful new interface and they mostly just copied Sublime Text. The go-to anything menu looks especially similar. https://t.co/5YxVbZcVcK

Just wondering, do you know how to code? What are your day to day tools as a designer?

Yeah, been building websites and webapps since the 90s and Mac/iOS apps since 2010. Daily tools are Photoshop, Xcode and Sublime Text.

Re: Atom

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I've been playing with it for a few minutes now, and it's definitely the case that it's easier to tweak. Not because of the underlying language, but because they expose so much of what's available through a GUI. I'm blown away by how cool this is. I'm just really hoping for good Vim keybindings and I will pay good money for this once it's out of beta.

A good VIM keybinding plugin is a must for me as well. The one available for LightTable, for instance, simply wasn't sufficient IMO. I can't specifically remember what it lacked, but it was enough to throw me off. Vintage mode in ST2/3 isn't perfect, but it's pretty solid. Atom looks interesting. I really look forward to trying it out.

Yeah, Vintage mode was okay. I liked the Vintageous plugin a bit better but even that left me wishing for Vim some of the time (more time to adapt might've helped).

Other than that, it seems like an incredibly well-designed editor. Really looking forward to seeing what happens to it now that it's out in the open.

Re: Atom

#158
It's ironic that you're unable to commit code from within Atom. Apart from that there are a couple of things that I feel can be added.

- Soft undo for multiple selections.

- Search settings since the panel is overwhelming.

- Markdown preview should be updated live?

- I really miss Go To Anything from Sublime Text 3.

- You should be able to select the syntax highlighting from the status bar.

- Inline preview of audio, SVG (toggle?) and fonts? That would be rad.

- Syncing of settings using GitHub settings?

But other than that this is really good progress!

Re: Atom

#159
I think, in the long run -3 to 5 years-, Jon Skinner -Sublime Text- will be leading, like now. I can clearly see his passion and investment in his product.

People at GitHub are also great, well funded, but this is not their core product. Do they have a leader -I don't know if they have or not- who will be focusing only on this product and keep up with jskinner?

I am sure Atom will be around for long years, as well as Sublime Text. Thanks to GitHub, I am looking forward to give it a try.

Re: Atom

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I was all ready to be skeptical and everything... but this could actually be amazing. I currently use Chocolat for code editing, which is beautifully elegant and I love it, but there are 25 little tiny things that I really wish I could fix. I file issues, but the developers rightly have their own priorities. It's closed-source, but even if it were open source, I'm not about to learn how to use XCode and Objective C a…

> and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be. > It already makes me dream of a word processor I could hack like that, or a music player. Just by opening up a text editor. It's an inspiring thought.

Not to rain on your parade or anything, but you can already do this with Emacs, not to mention that Emacs is free, open source software. Atom is not only not open source but their readme says it won't even be free after the beta.

Emacs has been around for almost 40 years, and because it's FOSS it will be around for at least another 40. Editors like Atom come and go.

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