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Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Will it take every single voting age person in America having a first-hand experience like this to change health care? How can any sane person prefer this over the alternative offered by Developed countries?

Tell me how to vote for change, and I'll gladly do it.

In addition to being terrible, the current system discourages entrepreneurship and effectively taxes small businesses.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Will it take every single voting age person in America having a first-hand experience like this to change health care? How can any sane person prefer this over the alternative offered by Developed countries?

No not even that I think. People in the USA perceives any kind of added tax, as money stolen from the state . Most of them do not have the notion of public regarded as something positive. Let's say it's a very different perception of property, compared to Europe. I am trying to convince myself that it's not wrong it's just different . I try to accept the fact that I don't understand their approach and get over with,…

The government is in bed with the industry. I don't trust the government with increased power over health care, because they will just screw everyone even more and give money to corporations. I have 0 confidence in the federal government to represent my interests, and that's the only reason I don't want them to have more control over my healthcare costs.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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I’m 22. I’m stressed. Everything’s fucked up. My mom is dying. I need help. TL;DR If anyone has any work for me (strengths are Ruby/Rails, data mining) please email me. ilovemymomjeanine@gmail.com (will go to my professional email) -- This is in regards to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7214446 If you’re in Minnesota and would like to meet with me, let’s meet. Very-long; will read: I’m posting here so I can ven…

I remember reading your comment on R.Lynch thread. As written before, do you have a paypal account ?

It's hard for me to accept handmeouts, but if anyone decides to be insisting, I'll vow to pay it forward (I always do).

I made the account under ilovemymomjeanine@gmail.com and I'll follow up with you with pictures of the paid invoices. I know there are trolls that do this, but for all that I have, I'm not one.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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It's a fucking embarrassment that there isn't an obvious person to call for help here.

I wish there was an organization that would help people navigate their healthcare. Like a medical concierge/social worker. Someone is an expert on The System and acts entirely on your behalf.

The would oversee your entire healthcare. They book your appointments, remind you to go, handle most billing issues, make sure you're up to date on prescriptions, and even provide emotional support. They involve themselves deeply with your medical care the way an old loyal family doctor might. All you do is be the patient.

You would have to hire and train amazingly great people, but I think there's enough good people in the world that would find the work so fulfilling you could make it work.

Medical problems can be incredibly sad, lonely, scary and it's the one place where procrastination literally kills. Regardless of how crazily you could spend a project like this it would still probably pay for itself based on early detection, better outcomes, etc.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Serious question: Why were these bills paid by the son who would have no financial obligation in the case of his mother's bankruptcy? America's health care safety net is bankruptcy and the 'cannot refuse critical treatment based on ability to pay' role of emergency rooms. Seems the right course to take in these situations is to string along the hospitals until it ends up in bankruptcy and only pay out of pocket from…

Because on-going treatment for a terminally-ill patient is not something the hospital will continue to do without being paid. They would cut her off.

I have never seen that in the United States. Where is that true?

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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post #12

Will it take every single voting age person in America having a first-hand experience like this to change health care? How can any sane person prefer this over the alternative offered by Developed countries?

No not even that I think. People in the USA perceives any kind of added tax, as money stolen from the state . Most of them do not have the notion of public regarded as something positive. Let's say it's a very different perception of property, compared to Europe. I am trying to convince myself that it's not wrong it's just different . I try to accept the fact that I don't understand their approach and get over with,…

> People in the USA perceives any kind of added tax, as money stolen from the state.

Hmm? The typical perception (among those who actually share the perception, which is not all Americans) reads more like: additional taxes are money stolen from the people and transferred to the state, whereupon significant chunks of it are wasted by a soulless bureaucracy (and sometimes select corporate sycophants) before the bureaucracy gives the People back a lot of substandard services.

Of course, enough US citizens were willing to vote for certain Congresspeople and presidents that a significant law was recently passed, with the ostensible goal of reforming health care. You may have heard about it as "the Affordable Care Act" or, colloquially, "Obamacare". So be careful with generalizations about American attitudes.

Perhaps study of this law's actual effects will ultimately be able to demonstrate the accuracy or inaccuracy of this perception?

Disclaimer. This post attempts to describe attitudes only, without endorsing or condemning them.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Horrible to hear. My mother died when I was at a similar age. Although there was little support from my family either, I live in Germany, so the state pays for Health care and there is welfare for people who cannot work. And still the stress seemed overwhelming. But in comparison I really can't complain...

Same here. I've been 17 when my mother died of cancer. Reading this, I'm happy to live in Germany.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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I’m 22. I’m stressed. Everything’s fucked up. My mom is dying. I need help. TL;DR If anyone has any work for me (strengths are Ruby/Rails, data mining) please email me. ilovemymomjeanine@gmail.com (will go to my professional email) -- This is in regards to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7214446 If you’re in Minnesota and would like to meet with me, let’s meet. Very-long; will read: I’m posting here so I can ven…

To me it sounds like you never had a long-term plan for the treatment or your own future. You jumped in, blew your savings, and now you're stuck. It's too late for "could-have, should-have", but if you somehow manage to procure more money, at least consider alternatives such as slower treatment schedules or flying your mother to a country where such treatments are cheaper (India comes to mind as a potential option)[0…

> To me it sounds like you never had a long-term plan for the treatment or your own future. You jumped in, blew your savings, and now you're stuck.

I'm 22, young; my future is good. For what it's worth, the way I see it is that everyone I would have graduated college with (I only did a semester), is now in massive amounts of debt. I'm just starting from near-zero (-$6k).

> I've heard of PTSD from rape or war, but this is totally new to me. What happened?

Snowstorm, lost traction. Ended up under a semi and was dragged under. The supporting beams of the trailer (which were perpendicular to my windshield) came through it and nearly put my face off.

> That sounds very strange to me. If my family was in need, I personally would jump on a first job with a stable paycheck that I could get so I could (slowly but surely) provide money. This seems like poor timing to bet on a lottery ticket (which, as HN reminds us, most startups are).

It is, and you're absolutely right. I wasn't expecting to not get a check, and I wasn't expecting to clear out my savings.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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Will it take every single voting age person in America having a first-hand experience like this to change health care? How can any sane person prefer this over the alternative offered by Developed countries?

You say "the alternative" as if every other country on Earth has one system, and the US has a second system, and that first system is what we should have. Whereas all those other countries have a bunch of different systems (compare Canada to the UK to France to Singapore). And each of those systems has real tradeoffs for real people. (To be clear: I'd be fine with many, even most, of those tradeoffs, but people who a…

All developed countries (excluding the US) share similarities, that when painting with a broad brush, can be called the same.

Namely:

People pay taxes that pay for healthcare for every single citizen. No person is without care. (end of comparison).

(You can tell people it's exactly the same as how they pay for Elementary and High School, how they pay for police and firemen, etc. etc.)

EDIT: Implied in my broad statement is No person pays out of pocket for care, other than the original taxes.

Re: My mom is dying, and my bank account is dry. I need help

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I’m 22. I’m stressed. Everything’s fucked up. My mom is dying. I need help. TL;DR If anyone has any work for me (strengths are Ruby/Rails, data mining) please email me. ilovemymomjeanine@gmail.com (will go to my professional email) -- This is in regards to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7214446 If you’re in Minnesota and would like to meet with me, let’s meet. Very-long; will read: I’m posting here so I can ven…

Are you just using your money for copays/deductibles or does she not have any insurance at all? Will they stop treating her if you stop paying? Defer as long as possible and either work out a payment plan later or let the insurance company eat it down the road. I know many people who have been bankrupted paying off medical bills as they come but you should pay just enough to keep the treatments going. Let everything…

She does have insurance, and it's great insurance. The treatments are just so specialized that the bill, after the insurance does their "work", is still anywhere from $10k to $50k.

They've made it clear that because the treatments are so specialized and that they have had to go outside of the normal realms for a patient (e.g. they had to bring in another specialist), that once the money stops flowing, things will need to be reevaluated.

It's a fucking scam. And a fucking shame to this country.

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