I don't like recruiters either but I think writing an open letter is going too far. I don't choose to make it my problem that recruiters suck. When I go to a sports game and get pestered by ticket scalpers, I don't lecture the scalpers on how the could be using more effective methods to sell their tickets and get all angry about how I'm tired of being offered tickets.
An Open Letter To Recruiters
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#32If they tell you the company, what's stopping you from turning them down and going directly to the company? I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't tell you the company.
if they are exclusive to that client for that job, they will tell you the company name..
HINT, you want the exclusive recruiter..
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#33If they tell you the company, what's stopping you from turning them down and going directly to the company? I'm pretty sure that's the main reason they don't tell you the company.
To me, the recruiter is representing the company. If they're reaching out to me, I'd like to think I already have an "in" with the company. Why would I circumvent that and go in alone?
Salary?
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#34I don't like recruiters either but I think writing an open letter is going too far. I don't choose to make it my problem that recruiters suck. When I go to a sports game and get pestered by ticket scalpers, I don't lecture the scalpers on how the could be using more effective methods to sell their tickets and get all angry about how I'm tired of being offered tickets.
So...
what you're telling me is you're tired of being offered posts on my blog and I could be using more effective methods? O:)
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#35So the only "recruiters" I ever get contacting me are for body-shop type firms (TekSystems, Robert Half). I've talked to them and I tell them that I'm comfortable where I am, but if you can find me something better, I'm willing to listen.
And I explain where I am being compensated now, and explain "better" would have to beat those things.
They say "oh, yes, we can!" and then of course, the only thing that may be even slightly better is the rate, but all other benefits are essentially zero (vacation time, sick time, health insurance).
I would LOVE to be contacted by a real recruiter.
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#36Please spare us with the royal attitude. Congratulations, you know how computers work, and so do thousands of other people who work harder and cheaper than you. Recruiters don't care if you, candidate number 947392, is annoyed or not. They simply want to know if you're going to the damn interview or not. If not then goodbye, next. If you go to the interview, and you didn't embarrass the recruiter for suggesting you, then good job, thank you candidate number 947whatever, you did your job. If you actually get an offer letter, oh boy, you did a very good job! Recruiter gets 10k after you worked that job for 3 months. Wash, rinse, repeat. You are not special.
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#37From the bio I’m friendly. I don’t bite. Feel free to say hi. That certainly doesn't match the Open Letter. Recruiters are there doing a job, and it's not an easy one. I have a lot of sympathy for them. Treat them nice, because at some point in your future, you'll be looking for a job too. The ones that you treated well ("This job isn't for me, but try calling X who is looking") will remember it.
I'm sorry you don't consider it friendly. Personally, telling them why their pitch didn't work felt friendlier than just assuming they had no interest in improving and ignoring them, which is the other tenable option. It would be unfriendly for me to send recruiters after friends without knowing if the friend is actually a match for the company or not. At least in my opinion.
+1 for honest feedback. The world could use more of that.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because then he couldn't write a blog post that is partially a thinly-veiled brag about how much he gets hit up for jobs!
And oh, man you should see the amount of junk mail and spam I get too! Be jealous of how frequently telemarketers call me! You nailed it, ace.
:)
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#39Please spare us with the royal attitude. Congratulations, you know how computers work, and so do thousands of other people who work harder and cheaper than you. Recruiters don't care if you, candidate number 947392, is annoyed or not. They simply want to know if you're going to the damn interview or not. If not then goodbye, next. If you go to the interview, and you didn't embarrass the recruiter for suggesting you,…
How uppity of me, to let my desire to work in a job I like get in the way of a recruiter's money.
I am thoroughly cowed. I've seen the error of my ways. Thank you.
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#40I hear from recruiters all the time. I sometimes even get on the phone with them just to get an idea of what they are pitching regardless of my status. I don't mind them contacting me via linkedin etc in general. The important realization is that it is not the recruiters necessarily but the recruiting ecosystem which is broken. Hiring is broken but not for recruiters. They love the current model of placing someone fo…
> What if employers/clients actually invest their own time in recruiting ? What if they ask their team members to recruit actively and even compensate them in some way (may be a boost in performance review ?). But no, we won't do that. We have lot more important shit to worry about.
Is this how large tech companies operate? I have mostly worked at startups, and am currently employed with a research institution. At no point have I ever gone through a recruiter when switching employers. In my limited experience, team members have always been the ones to directly manage their hiring and recruitment efforts.