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Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by greggman »

yeukhon wrote: post #10

They should make Office free. These days, more and more non-techie friends are starting to use OpenOffice on their own. While OO quality is no where near Microsoft Office's, OO writer and Powerpoint are good enough for simple usage. And people, don't make fancy PP anymore. They just need something that can read ppt and something they can play.

I'm going to admit up front I'm probably hopelessly out of touch.

I used to buy office from like Word 2.0 up through Office 2007 or so but for the life of me I can't figure out why most people would need Office today. Like I said I'm out of touch but...

If I write docs for publication it's HTML.

If I write for correspondence it's email

If I write for product design it's probably a wiki. Something the entire team can edit.

I am in no way suggesting that people don't have legit uses for Office or OpenOffice. I am saying that I have not had a legit use for Office in 6+ years.

Those few times I need to make a sign for party or a few page letter Google docs works fine. Even presentations I've done in Google docs just fine. Spreadsheets work fine as well. They can even be scripted if you want to do crazy stuff.

Why would I want to install Open Office when I can access Google Docs from ANY machine, not just machines have have Open Office installed?

Especially the Hacker News crowd. Do you find you need Office or Open Office still?

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by bruceb »

chemmail wrote: post #46
bruceb wrote: post #28

Office starter has been free and available for download for a while: http://www.downloadcrew.com/article/26083-microsoft_office_s...

Unfortunately it's been axed for Windows 8+

No it works on windows 8. Try it again or Google how to make it work. It is easy as I am running it on a machine right now.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by Silhouette »

greggman wrote: post #71
yeukhon wrote: post #10

They should make Office free. These days, more and more non-techie friends are starting to use OpenOffice on their own. While OO quality is no where near Microsoft Office's, OO writer and Powerpoint are good enough for simple usage. And people, don't make fancy PP anymore. They just need something that can read ppt and something they can play.

I'm going to admit up front I'm probably hopelessly out of touch. I used to buy office from like Word 2.0 up through Office 2007 or so but for the life of me I can't figure out why most people would need Office today. Like I said I'm out of touch but... If I write docs for publication it's HTML. If I write for correspondence it's email If I write for product design it's probably a wiki. Something the entire team can…

Why would I want to install Open Office when I can access Google Docs from ANY machine, not just machines have have Open Office installed?

Much larger feature set.

Privacy.

Robustness and future-proofing.

Shall we go on?

Do you find you need Office or Open Office still?

Sure. I've never used word processors much for professional work, as I find different tools of one kind or another are usually a better choice for preparing any given documentation. But there is more to office suites than word processors. Spreadsheets, in particular, are still the most convenient tool for many administrative tasks.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by camus2 »

Loving it, the stuff(Word/Excel) is ultra-fast, and aside from AMD, doesnt seem to be using any bloated js framework. Looks more like it's optimized to the max, with raw DOM manipulations.

A big change from clunky Angularjs apps...

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by georgewfraser »

jCanvas wrote: post #8

Does anyone know how they have implemented it? Looking at the page source there is lots of javascript involved, as you would expect. Are they using the DOM or a Canvas that fills the screen?

If you look at the network traffic it's very odd -- not only are the formulas being evaluated on the server, the server is shipping back DOM strings, not values. So it appears they are doing rendering on the server as well as calculation.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by haldujai »

yeukhon wrote: post #58
JoshTriplett wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would violate "for personal use".

How so? I can carry my laptop to my office and use my laptop instead. When I come home I get paged and my boss wants me to read a document. i wouldn't go back to my office just to open a document, would I? If I work for my dad's deli and I need to help him print a price tag I would be "working" for my dad and using my personal Office would violate the policy - but who would pay for a copy? I am self-employed and I us…

IANAL but if you read the EULA:

    The service/software may not be used for commercial,
    non-profit, or revenue-generating activities.
While EULA do not always hold up in court I can't see a reason why this wouldn't hold up. What you should do is VPN into work to do something for your boss. Or even better have a enterprise licensed version on your laptop. Yes you are violating the policy when you work for your dad. Your example of a single, small user violating the EULA is far different than a corporation actively encouraging users to violate the EULA. You may not be worth suing but a company sure is.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by cyanbane »

In proper MS marketing form I think there is a difference in two very similar products (and their names don't help the consumer at all). Office online is a web-based version of these popular apps (1:1 parity of OS software? I am not sure). There is also a $99 subscription model that allows you to install these apps for 5 computers (local OS software installs) + the benefits of these web apps + X gigs of One/Sky Drive + some Skype stuff.

I have been a happy subscriber to the $99 version (with OS apps) and I have been very happy with the price point. Have pretty much moved over to OneNote from EverNote over the past year and also love the ability to have a local install of Excel, but be able to edit inline on the web when needed.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by pacaro »

greggman wrote: post #71
yeukhon wrote: post #10

They should make Office free. These days, more and more non-techie friends are starting to use OpenOffice on their own. While OO quality is no where near Microsoft Office's, OO writer and Powerpoint are good enough for simple usage. And people, don't make fancy PP anymore. They just need something that can read ppt and something they can play.

I'm going to admit up front I'm probably hopelessly out of touch. I used to buy office from like Word 2.0 up through Office 2007 or so but for the life of me I can't figure out why most people would need Office today. Like I said I'm out of touch but... If I write docs for publication it's HTML. If I write for correspondence it's email If I write for product design it's probably a wiki. Something the entire team can…

Excel is a great tool for a developer.

Re: Microsoft Office Online

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Post by bottompair »

MichaelGG wrote: post #59
marshray wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if you put your notebook file on a Bitlocker'd drive?

It is Bitlocker'd, plus EFS'd (just in case my TPM gives up the keys - it's unclear if the password is mixed in to derive key material or not). And I'm getting a new SSD with "Encrypted Drive" support, so the keys are never in-memory (although again, I don't know if the key is just sitting in an easily-accessible chip on the disk, or if my password combines for key material). And then EFS on top of that, and each VM…

Daaaaaaamn you must have some awesome secret files!
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