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Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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Oh god I remember all of these. I'm so happy CSS came along. So very happy.

I started learning web stuff right around the Tables vs. CSS war. Terrible thing. Not many survivors. They didn't even get a wall of fallen heroes like some other wars did.

Although if I were to put up a wall now, I don't know which side to. CSS kind of won, but Bootstrap brought tables right back. I'm confused. Who won?

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

#253

> 1x1.gif let you push elements all around the page effortlessly. To this day it is the only way to vertically center elements. False, dynamic vertical centering has always been possible with tables: dynamically vertically centered This is something CSS still can't seem to do dynamically except with table-emulation, which, you know, kind of defeats the whole fucking purpose of CSS (and isn't backwards compatible anyw…

Vertical centering with CSS, without table emulation: http://jsfiddle.net/mBBJM/1/

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

#255
Ha ha! Brilliant!

CGI Scripts anyone?

Unfortunately I remember very well the days when it all started to become popular. I created my personal Web page in '94 hosted on the University's servers. 2 years later I was creating Web applications using shell or C-based CGI scripts. And then when I saw Duke juggling I started to work on Java.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

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> HTML For Dummies doesn't cover the tag until chapter four? Ah yes, HTML For Dummies . For me, the book that started it all. Reading that book during my elementary school Pokemon craze led me to create my first serious website from scratch, Mew's Hidden Lair [1]. Except back then it was Dummies 101: HTML [2]. And I do remember how magical it was to type in that command and see an image of Pikachu show up on my scree…

I am so, so, so sad that Yahoo! shut down Geocities, because they took with them the Pokemon fan website that I made when I was just learning this whole 'HTML' thing for the first time. I even remember the exact full URL of the website[0]. But between the demise of Geocities and the demise of my 386's hard drive, that piece of nostalgia is gone forever. I remember dedicating a page to all of the different "strategies…

You're not the only one. https://github.com/alaiacano/geocities-theme

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

#257
post #11

> HTML For Dummies doesn't cover the tag until chapter four? Ah yes, HTML For Dummies . For me, the book that started it all. Reading that book during my elementary school Pokemon craze led me to create my first serious website from scratch, Mew's Hidden Lair [1]. Except back then it was Dummies 101: HTML [2]. And I do remember how magical it was to type in that command and see an image of Pikachu show up on my scree…

I'm surprised Tripod.com is still hosting my Pokemon site, Pikachu's Place [1]! I used take screenshots of episodes by taking pictures of the TV using a digital camera and uploaded them to the site. Hilarious. Can't forget about the Paint Shop Pro animated graphics! [1] http://pika299.tripod.com/

Jeez, I had a site on Tripod called Pikachu's House of Pokémon. The number of Pokemon fan sites in this HN thread is blowing me away right now.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

#258
post #3

Oh God, I remember . And the tag. And I remember I made a Java applet that consumed so many resources that everyone who visited my page thought their machine had locked up. Good times.

I remember a friend would troll me by obscuring a url which led to this website that hosted an image with a ridiculously large resolution for computer hardware of the time to render, resulting in a BSOD within 10 seconds. Got me every time!

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

#259

> 1x1.gif let you push elements all around the page effortlessly. To this day it is the only way to vertically center elements. False, dynamic vertical centering has always been possible with tables: dynamically vertically centered This is something CSS still can't seem to do dynamically except with table-emulation, which, you know, kind of defeats the whole fucking purpose of CSS (and isn't backwards compatible anyw…

Vertical centering with CSS, without table emulation: http://jsfiddle.net/mBBJM/1/

IIRC that technique only works with fixed heights so it is useless for most layout scenarios, and is why I specified "dynamic" in my comment.

CSS is perfectly fine for fixed size layouts but it completely sucks for dynamic ones, especially if you want to mix fixed and dynamic elements. Tables OTOH handle these layout scenarios simply, concisely and without hacks.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This

#260

> 1x1.gif let you push elements all around the page effortlessly. To this day it is the only way to vertically center elements. False, dynamic vertical centering has always been possible with tables: dynamically vertically centered This is something CSS still can't seem to do dynamically except with table-emulation, which, you know, kind of defeats the whole fucking purpose of CSS (and isn't backwards compatible anyw…

Vertical centering with CSS, without table emulation: http://jsfiddle.net/mBBJM/1/

Only works if you have a fixed height for what you're centering though.
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