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Re: Neovim

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Post by rrradical »

dredmorbius wrote: post #339
dengnan wrote: post #194

Finally, someone took this step. I really appreciate his work. Don't get me wrong. Vim is an awesome editor and it is the only editor I'm using now. I've been using it for decades and still cannot find an editor which can replace it. Sorry, emacs, I tried several times but failed. I know it's my problem but I'm too familiar with vim's short-cuts. However, I do think we can still do some improvement on vim, especially…

There's viper mode. Though, aside from a brief dalliance with emacs in the late 1990s, I've used vi / vim since 1987.

I tried Evil, which was supposedly better than Viper, and it got me 90% of the way to vim. But that last 10% kept me from staying (and also that emacs has way more typing/command lag than vim).

Re: Neovim

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Post by Mchl »

rwl wrote: post #360
coldtea wrote: post #295

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> which has been used for writing books for decades Well, mostly math and science books. Very few (if any) fancy and well typespeced books by major publishers have been made with LaTeX. I know, because I know that industry. So, while TeX was once created to be a general typesetting solution, it has been relegated to something math and cs geeks use for their papers. > And if you find LaTeX is so hard, there's always L…

> Very few (if any) fancy and well typespeced books by major publishers have been made with LaTeX. I know, because I know that industry. What do they use, then? (I'm actually pretty curious, because I am writing a dissertation that I currently build with LaTeX, but I find it much nicer to write in Org mode. I'm doing whatever I can to avoid a hard dependency on LaTeX for the backend, and to allow exporting to multipl…

Quark Xpress and Adobe inDesign are two I have seen being used. In the past Corel Ventura was wuite popular too.

Re: Neovim

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Post by rat87 »

jhasse wrote: post #357
coldtea wrote: post #295

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> which has been used for writing books for decades Well, mostly math and science books. Very few (if any) fancy and well typespeced books by major publishers have been made with LaTeX. I know, because I know that industry. So, while TeX was once created to be a general typesetting solution, it has been relegated to something math and cs geeks use for their papers. > And if you find LaTeX is so hard, there's always L…

> A not really maintained, relic of a program, [...] http://www.lyx.org/trac/timeline

Also http://www.ohloh.net/p/lyx

Re: Neovim

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Post by chris_wot »

markdennehy wrote: post #282
mpnordland wrote: post #264

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Well, depends on the size of the leaf blower. If you can blow the trees down, certainly don't bother with the chain saw!

Newton would have some things to say about that, but you wouldn't hear him because of your doppler shift.

I just choked on a glass of water. Thank you for that comment!

Re: Neovim

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Post by chris_wot »

tinco wrote: post #84
stusmall wrote: post #78

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I don't mean to be a jerk, but how much do you actually use/have used LaTex? They aren't even similar. They have very few similar use cases. One is a typesetting system the other is a word processor. Sure, documents come out the other end with both but the process and targets are very different. One allows you to quickly and easily make a quality document. One allows you to make the document to look exactly how you w…

I'm by no means a LaTex expert. I've written a few papers and a bunch of reports, nothing published, just undergraduate stuff. I dropped out halfway through my graduate degree, so I'm not what you'd call an academic. But I've seen and read enough to know that you can do impressive things with LaTex. I have another question though, how much have you used Word? I have used it only a couple of times since highschool, bu…

"I bet that if you really dive into it you could get very close to the power of latex."

I find that very unlikely.

Re: Neovim

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Post by chris_wot »

gdiocarez wrote: post #340
bowerbird wrote: post #271

300 comments in 24 hours. nothing better than people word-fighting about writing tools... -bowerbird

Right, haha, like comparing tool that does the same thing and just justifying or proving that this one is better -_-

Wait till you see what happens when someone comes up with neoemacs.

Re: Neovim

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Post by mbreese »

Crito wrote: post #304
mbreese wrote: post #299

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What I'm trying to say is that for the vast majority of peoe that have to produce documents, it isn't an apples to oranges comparison. For most proe, Word and LaTeX do the same thing. And one of those is vastly easier to use to get their job done. So while LaTeX is the technically superior, Word will still get the job done. And because of the network effects that working with collaborators has, People like me are stu…

In a similar vein, you might say that to the vast majority of people there is no difference between a screwdriver and a pry bar because most people are content with abusing screwdrivers.

It depends on the job you're trying to do.

But you can't honestly say that Word and LaTeX really have that big of a difference in intended jobs. It seems to me that they are both in the document production business.

Re: Neovim

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Post by Crito »

mbreese wrote: post #369
Crito wrote: post #304

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In a similar vein, you might say that to the vast majority of people there is no difference between a screwdriver and a pry bar because most people are content with abusing screwdrivers.

It depends on the job you're trying to do. But you can't honestly say that Word and LaTeX really have that big of a difference in intended jobs. It seems to me that they are both in the document production business.

And pry-bars and screwdrivers are both in the "levers that provide mechanical advantage" business.

One can be abused to fill the role of the other, and if you look at them both from 1000 feet and squint then both "for" the same thing, but the reality is that when you actually examine what each is designed to do and in which situations each is used, they really have little to do with each other.

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