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Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

raveli wrote: post #34

Divide and conquer. By making any success with its Android phones, Microsoft can achieve two goals: - further fragment the Android platform making it more difficult for users to buy devices and for developers to support the various devices and - benefit from Android's strong market position instead of only trying to create market for Windows phones in places where it doesn't fit They've identified the greatest flaw i…

Divide yes, but as for the conquer part we'll have to wait and see.

It seems to me that they might confuse themselves and their own customers more than anyone else with that convoluted strategy.

They identified Android's greatest flaw and swiftly added it to their own ecosystem.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Post by pritambaral »

Oletros wrote: post #66
indy wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Android 4.4 is targeted to run on low memory (i.e 512MB) devices unlike some of the previous Android releases.

Nokia X runs Android 4.1, not 4.4

Source?

EDIT: Wikipedia initially said 4.4.1

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Post by saurabhnanda »

spiritplumber wrote: post #60

Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal? The problem is that it's another iphone lookalike. I WANT A DAMN KEYBOARD!

This. I just don't understand what are the benefits of a on-screen keyboard vis-a-vis a slide-out hardware qwerty keyboard. Ever tried using an on-screen keyboard with wet hands? Tried texting in class without looking?

Why can't we get one, just ONE, good Android device with a hardware keyboard?

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Post by vetinari »

gebe wrote: post #70
Fuxy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the idea was good the implementation sucks as usual. Android without the play store is not as useful or flexible and you can't compete with other budget phones which do have the play store so you're shooting yourself in the foot. As log as there's an easy way for end users to put it on it shouldn't be such a big deal though. What I suspect they are attempting to do is get back into the low budget phone market wh…

They have already proven that WP can run on low spec hardware though with the Lumia 520. It's also a 1GHz, 512MB RAM device.

Lumia 520 has MSM8227, it is not that low end. It is dual core Snapdragon S4 with Adreno 305. Nexus 7 (2013) is not that much powerful.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Post by josephlord »

Oletros wrote: post #64
DominikR wrote: post #57

How is that even possible, I thought Android is closed source. At least that's what Ars Technica has been telling us for the last months.

Yap, and PvZ2 can't be ported to AOSP because it uses GMS API's

I think you mean that they would need porting rather than just releasing as the same binary in another store (unless that API usage is conditional).

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Post by kreeben »

I have heard great things about Microsoft's Windows Phones and Nokias hardware, but this move is confusing to say the least and I am not quite sure why it is necessary. MS designed the WP OS to run on moderately speced hardware but not on low-end devices? And now that they want a smartphone for the rising markets, they go looking for suitable software, which they find in the lap of their immediate competitor?

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Post by gilgoomesh »

m_mueller wrote: post #61
graetzer wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is a kernel contributor, and Android isn't really linux http://go.linuxfoundation.org/who-writes-linux-2012

Android isn't really linux? Please expand.

To the extent that Linux is technically just the kernel and fundamental services, Android uses Linux but is not itself "Linux".

To the extent that Linux implies "GNU Linux", i.e. a whole operating system and a broadly interoperable and source compatible set of *nix services, Android is not Linux any more than iOS is FreeBSD.

Re: Nokia announces the X and X+, its first Android phones

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Post by ygra »

saurabhnanda wrote: post #73
spiritplumber wrote: post #60

Installing Google Play on this should be trivial anyway, what's the big deal? The problem is that it's another iphone lookalike. I WANT A DAMN KEYBOARD!

This. I just don't understand what are the benefits of a on-screen keyboard vis-a-vis a slide-out hardware qwerty keyboard. Ever tried using an on-screen keyboard with wet hands? Tried texting in class without looking? Why can't we get one, just ONE, good Android device with a hardware keyboard?

The benefits are that it's cheaper and easier to manufacture. Of course those are only tangential benefits to the customer.
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